Luc Janssens

No promo I'm aware of, but there was a resin conversion kit by AAM;

Parts pack cost the same shipping and packaging wise, so for a few bucks more one can buy a std. kit IMHO they could show the endless possibilities mixing and matching in their instructions sheets, promoting the other kits in their lineup

The funny thing is, that back then when it was announced in the '86 Catalog they showed a black '86.

I grew up building Monogram models much more than Amt and Mpc, mostly due to the fact that they built up well and they always had clear headlamps, I never could understand the toy like cheapo molded-in chrome units in the Amt/Mpc kits, but at that age I didn't know about the Promo heritage most of these releases carried. When John Greczula at Round2, had a new grille for the Amt '61 Ranchero tooled with clear headlamps, I thought they were gonna update more kits the same way, but alas the money guy decided otherwise

Moebius is doing the same with for example their Ford P/U's, I call it smart business.

Could that be the "muscle car" they, according to their video are working on?

There's tooling that is worth to be saved and with TLC and some updating will go on and one, but...there are others that really need to be scrapped to make room for all new tools....like the '67 and '70-'72 GTO's, and most of the Lindberg odd ball stuff, that went from production straight to Ollies, and then landfill. I know that nostalgia is a powerful thing, but think one baby boomer trying to build a "nostalgia kit" like he did when growing up, and despite the great box art and colorful decals, it still fits like crapola, he must be thinking, wow this hobby really progressed in these past 40 years, NOT! Just my 2 cents

Sure there are kits that fall in that category, but many others can still be bought for pennies on the dollar, it kinda seems that the recycling of common old kits mostly finances the new sci-fi releases,, and too a much much lesser extend the restoration/restomod of old automotive tools or the creation of new ones. Anyway to me the credibility of the company hit rock bottom with the release of the '69 Yenko Camaro. But maybe there's a ray of sunshine up on the horizon, with the eminent release of the Supernatural Impala, the rumored wagon and muscle car, if they can get the bug out of their system.

In the video R2 aired a few weeks ago, they showed a built test shot, and said that they experienced some problems with the retool thus therefore the delay.

The more I think about it, the more sure I'm getting that it will be an Impala Some parts they had to tool up for the supernatural they also will need for a wagon (please correct me if I'm wrong) - new front bumper-grille - new hood - bench seat - 4dr. interior side panels So what do they need to tool-up - new body (co-designed in 3D when they were doing the 4dr.) - new windshield, back and side windows - extensions for the 4dr. (or all new) interior side panels - wagon interior floor and inner tailgate trim - backseat with backing - rear bumper-taillight part - new stock wheels (one can use to convert the 4dr. hardtop to stock)

Since they're already tinkering with the '67 Chevy Impala tool, I'm guessing that will be the wagon kit, unless the Movie guys won from the car guys, then it will be the family truckster..

No problem Joe, did the same with my 1/25th scale amt Opel GT kit, it's also getting new footwear, one of those tuner (forgot the brand, but were designed by accurate miniatures IIRC) wheel/tire sets I picked up in the US years ago...

HPI guy (Chris) just posted a clip of his build on you tube

ideal for putting next to a sixties 1/32nd scale fighter jet, R2 should've advertised it in model plane mags.... I plan to pick up the '63 'vette in the series to put next to my Phantom jet

Reissues have been part of the game since day two, I wonder how many kits of tools thought to be scrapped or incomplete were brought back by R2?

Interesting also, that it says, "molded in the USA" which means not all of the tooling left the country or was sold.

IIRC the wheels and tires were similar to those in the Chevy Black Gold Van.

Guess time will tell, if he's the big savior of Amt/mpc or if he will bring the automotive hobby to an all new high...but believe me I very much would like to be proven wrong.

That why I included loan costs, (paying off the loan for buying the tooling from Tommy) Tom. Oh I see I forgot a comma between warehousing and loan costs, lemme fix that...

Again apples and oranges Are alternative versions possible of one spaceship/craft? Are there old tools available of certain spaceships/crafts? What’s the price setting of the competition? 20 years ago, for automotive kit manufacturers, the money came in by the truck loads, due to the buying power of big outlets such as Walmart, so alternative versions were not really needed (but often a 2nd was done anyway) as the sheer volume kept MSRP low. Since then a few events happened, all but one mayor retailer (a craft store) kicked out the model companies, due to changing interests of their clientele (read ROI on their shelf space) Lindberg under the leadership of a shady character, blew out their entire inventory (shooting plastic though every tool that had) flooding the market with mediocre products, which sat on the shelves unsold hurting their competitors cuz it sent a message through retail and distribution channels, that model kits don’t sell, consumer trust got a blow too, cuz the bulk of it was nicely wrapped junk (I'm being polite) Also the remains of once proud companies Amt & Mpc (owned by Tommy), were sold to a guy who’s family made it fortune selling cat litter, lets call him tool collector, cuz later he bought Lindberg lock stock and barrel too. Anyway they started re-releasing kits from old tooling, sometimes un- the other changed by restoring or adding parts, so their price-setting is made-up by payroll, production, licensing, minimal re- or added tooling, transportation, warehousing, loan costs and profit margin. The competition like Revell and Moebius have to be in that same price bracket, to not price themselves out of the market, so they get creative by designing kits with multiple siblings, which is good business sense IMHO, the lack of this kind thinking (back in the day by Ertl management) is what lead to the problems R2 faces with their Camaro retool So my statement that Round-2 is by choice more sci-fi oriented then automotive, still stands. ? But as always open to other opinions, that is the only way we learn to understand each other better. Luc

What What's the box-size of the Eagle II, and what would be the size and price of an 1/8th scale '79 Monogram Trans Am? all apples and oranges, now compare the prices of R2 car kits with those of Revell, the latter can tool up all new for less, (even Revell Germany) Also Round2 is entering Tamiya pricing in my neck of the woods, but where the quid pro quo? Newcomers like Belkits and Beemax can invest and sell car kits at a premium, so that tells me that automotive models will pay the price, as long as it's a subject they really want.

Strange cuz the narrator said it looked better than the M&M designed part!

I understand, but Moebius also caters the sci-fi market as well as the automotive one, so one doesn't exclude the other.

I very much would like a '68 Coronet, others other subject I don't care about, but to each his or her own, so don't participate to those treads.

How would they know, since they bought the remains of amt, mpc, ertl, lindberg, polar lights, I didn't see anything new for the die hard classic/muscle car modelers, even the Demon which was supposed to be a mayor retool was canceled and before anyone mentions the late model Challenger, vette's and Camaro's....well modern cars are a though sell, unless it's motorsport. Not trying to be a wise a$$ but trying to start a constructive debate;;;