Luc Janssens

IIRC the wheels and tires were similar to those in the Chevy Black Gold Van.

Guess time will tell, if he's the big savior of Amt/mpc or if he will bring the automotive hobby to an all new high...but believe me I very much would like to be proven wrong.

That why I included loan costs, (paying off the loan for buying the tooling from Tommy) Tom. Oh I see I forgot a comma between warehousing and loan costs, lemme fix that...

Again apples and oranges Are alternative versions possible of one spaceship/craft? Are there old tools available of certain spaceships/crafts? What’s the price setting of the competition? 20 years ago, for automotive kit manufacturers, the money came in by the truck loads, due to the buying power of big outlets such as Walmart, so alternative versions were not really needed (but often a 2nd was done anyway) as the sheer volume kept MSRP low. Since then a few events happened, all but one mayor retailer (a craft store) kicked out the model companies, due to changing interests of their clientele (read ROI on their shelf space) Lindberg under the leadership of a shady character, blew out their entire inventory (shooting plastic though every tool that had) flooding the market with mediocre products, which sat on the shelves unsold hurting their competitors cuz it sent a message through retail and distribution channels, that model kits don’t sell, consumer trust got a blow too, cuz the bulk of it was nicely wrapped junk (I'm being polite) Also the remains of once proud companies Amt & Mpc (owned by Tommy), were sold to a guy who’s family made it fortune selling cat litter, lets call him tool collector, cuz later he bought Lindberg lock stock and barrel too. Anyway they started re-releasing kits from old tooling, sometimes un- the other changed by restoring or adding parts, so their price-setting is made-up by payroll, production, licensing, minimal re- or added tooling, transportation, warehousing, loan costs and profit margin. The competition like Revell and Moebius have to be in that same price bracket, to not price themselves out of the market, so they get creative by designing kits with multiple siblings, which is good business sense IMHO, the lack of this kind thinking (back in the day by Ertl management) is what lead to the problems R2 faces with their Camaro retool So my statement that Round-2 is by choice more sci-fi oriented then automotive, still stands. ? But as always open to other opinions, that is the only way we learn to understand each other better. Luc

What What's the box-size of the Eagle II, and what would be the size and price of an 1/8th scale '79 Monogram Trans Am? all apples and oranges, now compare the prices of R2 car kits with those of Revell, the latter can tool up all new for less, (even Revell Germany) Also Round2 is entering Tamiya pricing in my neck of the woods, but where the quid pro quo? Newcomers like Belkits and Beemax can invest and sell car kits at a premium, so that tells me that automotive models will pay the price, as long as it's a subject they really want.

Strange cuz the narrator said it looked better than the M&M designed part!

I understand, but Moebius also caters the sci-fi market as well as the automotive one, so one doesn't exclude the other.

I very much would like a '68 Coronet, others other subject I don't care about, but to each his or her own, so don't participate to those treads.

How would they know, since they bought the remains of amt, mpc, ertl, lindberg, polar lights, I didn't see anything new for the die hard classic/muscle car modelers, even the Demon which was supposed to be a mayor retool was canceled and before anyone mentions the late model Challenger, vette's and Camaro's....well modern cars are a though sell, unless it's motorsport. Not trying to be a wise a$$ but trying to start a constructive debate;;;

if it was they would've included stock wheels

Indeed, which says a lot about the focus of the company.

Nope, these kits are "year specific"

I think no one here is against the restoring of tooling to bring back long lost kits, but many question the endless recycling of automotive kits one can find in the secondary market for cents on the dollar. I'm wondering if they do the same with the sci-fi kits. Looking at the video, the car guys are in the minority at Round-2, and probably have to put on a pretty good fight to push something through, cuz the green light for the 4dr. Impala retool came from?!......

More photo reports are being added, so keep on checking the IPMS Germany site the coming days for updates. http://ipmsdeutschland.de/news.html

They showed the Supernatural Impala, (beautiful buildup BTW), a build test shot of the Vega and a slammed together test shot of full bumper Camaro. There was also talk that a new muscle car, wagon and two big rig kits are in the works, what they are, no idea.

Ah yes....googled it and it's indeed a Pony 2, I guess the "spartan" look of the build threw me off.

Think it's a reissue...

Gents, It's that time of year again: http://ipmsdeutschland.de/Ausstellungen/Nuernberg2020/Nuernberg_2020.html http://ipmsdeutschland.de/Ausstellungen/Nuernberg2020/Bilder_AE/index.html http://ipmsdeutschland.de/Ausstellungen/Nuernberg2020/Bilder_AT/index.html A BIG thanks to the nice folks of IPMS Germany! Luc

Not only that, but in a production environment it's not impossible that someone on the packaging line, clips of the wrong parts!

OMG!

Yeah...got one and the regular bed earlier this week too, both look great and glad that they stopped clipping off all those extra (not needed) parts, which are remains from a not so efficient tool design, but they're still a young company Can't wait to see what's up next from Dave M.

That's because they're tooling up this car..... ?

The word is out, and that is important...do hope it will generate renewed interest in the hobby.

Strangely enough, I no longer can access it either, bummer!