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Very nice work.

Man, I do admire a good clean builder. Looks terrific.

Steve, I'm pretty sure JC wasn't aiming to correct you, just adding more information. As for nose in the air gassers, aesthetically, I don't like em. I can't imagine it adds any advantage mechanically. I prefer them level or slightly nose down.

I'm afraid my build has been sidetracked by life.

I dig it. Terrific work.

Having said that - on our theme poll for this year, it was a tight race between Inliners and Vans. If the group chooses to run another Cannonball and forgo my "brilliant" idea , I really think the group that really wanted vans, should have their day.

My thought, and we've been batting it around in the main build thread, is sort of taking a break from the Cannonball and making next years run, the Peking to Paris Rally. The P2P is the toughest endurance race on the planet. 33 days of travel and time trials. Like a lot of historic rally races, only vintage cars are allowed. The cars are subject to certain build rules but as you can see from the bottom link, they are far from stock. I think it would be an excellent change of pace and an opportunity to build a truly historic race car. http://www.endurorally.com/pages/the-peking-to-paris-motor-challenge-2016 http://peking2paris2013.com/car/

I'll add a few. Glad to see this thread again, although the OP is MIA here the last threee years.

Excellent. The things they are doing with rockets boggles the mind. Even when I was a kid seeing a rocket land vertically on some sci-fi movie, I was thinking "yeah right, pull the other one". Truly amazing.

That's looking insane Fred.

Pat I'd say that doing anything besides following the actual rules of the P2P would be wrong. As for stock - not hardly - it's more of a period race car. Check out this '40 Ford that placed third in 2013. http://peking2paris2013.com/car/

Quite right. So horsepower and handling will take a back seat to ride height, traction, stability and torque. Fuel economy even. With three classes, there are a lot of options. There are build rules but they are rather loose. The more I read about this rally, the more I want to do it in real life. If I ever win the lottery, I'll be there with bells on. Please chime in here racers, unless I get a whole lot of no thank you's, this is likely gonna be next years run. If I do get enough negative reaction, I will honor the groups wishes and a normal Cannonball CBP will be run.

I'm all for lightening up a car for racing, but to actually eliminate the car?

That shouldn't be necessary. We go around the Middle East. Nothing puts the damper on a rally like a rowdy group of jihadies. Fred it's good to see you back. We were fixing to contact the Australian authorities to see if you'd been eaten by a rabid wombat. Looking forward to seeing the Bugatti take shape. Get to it.

I quite agree. Very cool. I am missing wide whites in the front though.

I believe so. However as a rally, it's not all in one non-stop race. It's 33 days of time trials and legs to the next time trial location. So it's cumulative time in the drivers seat. http://www2.endurorally.com/pp2013/results.php I agree about the new race part. It would not be the Cannonball Run. It would be something like the MCM Peking to Paris Rally brought to you by the Cannonball Drivers Association. And there would not be a Cannonball Run next year running concurrently, so you won't have to choose one or the other if your build time is as limited as mine has been lately. I'm really amazed that I finished my racer this year. It's been crazy at my farm. Lastly, this deviation from our normal runs will be an exception, not the rule. The year following we'll be back terrorizing the streets of America.

These are the entrants from the 2016 running so you can see what sort of vehicles are being driven. Vintageant Category - pre 1941 model cars 30 Phil Garratt / Kieron Brown Chevrolet Fangio Coupe 4:00:00 257:23:58 1 1 G 14 Bruce Washington / Ben Washington Chrysler 75 Roadster 4:00:00 258:19:52 2 1 G 38 Mike Reeves / Michelle Jana Chan Ford Coupe 4:00:00 259:26:40 3 2 G 26 Tony Strelzow / Lee Strelzow Bentley Drophead 4:00:00 260:11:14 4 3 G 6 Daniel Woodcock / Tony Woodcock Bentley 3-4½ 4:00:00 260:50:31 5 2 G 2 Erwin Beerens / Gert Mertens Rolls Royce Silver Ghost 4:00:00 261:29:14 6 3 G 29 Rhys Timms / James Stone MG SA 4:00:00 261:43:48 7 4 G 34 Dirk Cavens / Jeff Cavens Chevrolet Coupe 4:00:00 261:43:59 8 5 G 10 Peter Zernial / Udo Fink MG TC 4:00:00 262:04:57 9 6 S 99 Anton Gonnissen / Inge Willemen Bentley Sports Special 4:00:00 262:11:58 10 7 G 24 Mike Armstrong / Peter Armstrong Dodge DR Special 4:00:00 263:13:16 11 8 G 36 Keith Young Jr / Keith Young Sr Chevrolet Suburban 4:00:00 266:00:16 12 9 S 41 Sam Peters / Enos Reed Studebaker President 4:00:00 268:41:31 13 10 S 17 Stefan Auer / Harald Lingg Bentley Open Tourer 4:00:00 270:28:32 14 4 S 23 Mani Dubs / Robi Huber Rockne Six 75 4:00:00 270:44:44 15 11 S 12 Jock Burridge / Bill Burridge Buick 25X 4:00:00 271:30:25 16 5 S 25 Arnold Meier / Rudolf Hug Packard Convertible 4:00:00 273:19:15 17 12 S 33 Glen Duthie / Allan Cullen Cadillac La Salle 4:00:00 276:20:58 18 13 S 37 Willy Hopflinger / Norbert Thurner Packard Six 1700 4:00:00 288:19:11 19 14 S 35 Chris Clemons / Tim Clemons Packard Six 4:00:00 289:41:53 20 15 S 11 Christian Schenk / Balz Eggimann Bentley 4½ Tourer 4:00:00 297:26:38 21 6 B 21 John Anderson / Gary Anderson Ford Model A Cabriolet 4:30:00 300:15:55 22 7 B 32 Christian Lalarderie / Christian Morales Chevrolet Fangio Coupe 4:00:00 303:12:45 23 16 S 3 Nicky Bailey / Nadja Saralam Ford Model T 4:00:00 306:58:01 24 8 S 1 Ingo Strolz / Werner Gassner La France Tourer 4:00:00 309:31:20 25 9 S 15 Bill Cleyndert / Mark van Hees Ford Model A Speedster 4:00:00 318:16:53 26 10 B 8 Lars Rolner / Annette Rolner Bentley 4½ 4:00:00 318:31:05 27 11 B 18 Rod Wade / John Bell Ford Model A 5:15:00 322:23:39 28 12 B 19 Alan Day / Roger Anderson Ford Model A 4:00:00 326:51:42 29 13 B 27 Monte Gingery / Phil Putnam Chrysler Imperial Airflow 4:00:00 350:52:01 30 17 B 22 Philip Noble / David Brown Rolls Royce Phantom II 4:45:00 352:53:07 31 14 B 31 David Browning / Michael Dow Bentley 4¼ MX Saloon 4:00:00 354:15:17 32 18 B 42 Ed Haag / Ernie Johnson Ford Super Deluxe 4:00:00 437:54:15 33 19 B 7 Jenny Mah / Loren Cocking Ford Model A Phaeton 4:00:00 445:00:37 34 15 B 28 Daniel Schoch / Shaneen Pointing Bentley Sports Derby 4:30:00 464:49:57 35 20 40 Willy Van Loon / Chris Torfs Pontiac Deluxe 4:00:00 Unclassified 4 Robert Wilkinson / Mark Wilkinson Bentley 6½ Tourer - Retired 39 Pierre Malingreau / Gaby De Coninck La Salle Cadillac Coupe - Retired 16 Dom Bernaz / Guido Somazzi Rolls Royce 20 - Retired 20 Jan De Clerck / Jan Imschoot Delage D6 Tourer - Unclassified 5 Matthew Telling / Andrew Wyers Vauxhall 14/40 - Unclassified 9 Paul Darrouzet / Ian Brown Packard Phaeton - Unclassified Classic Category - pre 1975 model cars 90 Gerry Crown / Matt Bryson Leyland P76 4:00:00 237:30:10 1 1 G 63 Peter Lovett / Tim Smith Porsche 911 4:00:00 237:49:22 2 1 G 87 Robbie Sherrard / Peter Washington Citroen DS23 4:00:00 238:09:47 3 2 G 51 Paul Kirkham / Mariella Kirkham Datsun P510 4:00:00 238:36:20 4 2 G 50 Richard White / Richard Scott Volvo 122S 4:00:00 238:55:13 5 3 G 86 John Rich / John Rich III Toyota Landcruiser FJ40 4:00:00 238:59:12 6 3 G 61 Evgenii Smirnov / Boris Lytkin Moskvitch 412 4:00:00 239:33:13 7 4 G 57 Gianmaria Aghem / Piergiovanni Fiorio Trono Lancia Fulvia Coupe 4:00:00 239:37:05 8 5 G 59 Hans-Peter Schaerli / Marc Schaerli Volkswagen Beetle 4:00:00 240:04:09 9 6 G 53 Kerry Finn / Kevin Finn Volvo 142 4:00:00 240:11:44 10 7 G 56 Allison Cotes / Peter Cotes Volvo 144 4:00:00 240:55:15 11 8 G 93 Richard Everingham / Seonaid Beningfield Bentley R Type 4:00:00 241:10:38 12 4 G 70 Gerard Besson / Marie-Odile Besson Renault Fregate 4:00:00 241:23:22 13 5 G 46 Mario Illien / Noele Illien Citroen 11B 4:00:00 241:24:26 14 9 S 83 Mick de Haas / Anthony Verloop Mercedes 280 SE 4:00:00 241:27:21 15 6 G 69 Dirk de Groen / Alexandra de Lespinasse Mercedes Benz 219 4:00:00 241:45:29 16 7 G 48 Stephen Partridge / Corgi La Grouw Morris Oxford 4:00:00 242:02:12 17 10 G 89 Shubun Kitami / Hirofumi Igarashi Bentley MkVI 4:00:00 242:27:40 18 8 S 74 Willem Vermeulen / Ellen Vermeulen Jaguar MkII 4:00:00 242:32:44 19 9 G 79 Hermann Frye-Hammelmann / Jovan Markovic Mercedes Benz 300SE 4:00:00 243:10:49 20 10 S 77 Markus Kirchgeorg / Roman Kainz Mercedes Benz 300SE 4:00:00 244:08:32 21 11 S 88 Jesse Smaal / Jack Boers Studebaker Power Hawk 4:00:00 244:41:29 22 12 G 47 Henry Rohrer / Adi Herzog Porsche 356A 4:00:00 244:55:51 23 11 S 84 Mike Velasco / Derek Sloan Mercedes 280S 4:00:00 250:28:13 24 13 S 82 Ludovic Bois / Julia Colman Volvo Amazon 4:00:00 251:14:42 25 14 S 55 John Layzell / Brett Layzell Volkswagen Beetle 4:00:00 251:43:33 26 12 S 52 Phil Burgan / John Wright Volvo Saloon 4:00:00 252:13:54 27 13 S 78 Mike Killingsworth / James Killingsworth Holden EH 4:00:00 262:04:43 28 15 B 100 Peter St George / David Gainer Holden 48-215 FX 4:00:00 262:57:25 29 16 S 80 Hans Middelberg / Malcolm Rose Ford Mustang Convertible 4:00:00 265:44:52 30 17 S 67 Michel Leempoel / Camille Van Vooren Chevrolet Pick-Up 4:00:00 269:12:44 31 18 B 58 Yasuaki Iwasaki / Takeshi Akiyama Nissan Fairlady 240 Z 4:00:00 273:43:50 32 14 S 98 Brian Shields / Chantal Shields Ford Mustang 4:00:00 274:16:42 33 19 S 68 Tadeusz Wesolowski / Piotr Lubaczewski Jaguar XK150 4:00:00 277:11:34 34 20 B 95 Kim Widrick / Len Treeter Chevrolet Impala 4:00:00 279:34:43 35 21 B 72 Roland Singer / Christoph Ley Mercedes 220S Ponton 4:00:00 284:31:12 36 22 S 81 Keith Ashworth / Norah Ashworth Mercedes 230 Fintail 4:00:00 291:25:39 37 23 B 91 Philippe Clamens / Jose Lourseau Mercedes 450 SLC 4:00:00 292:19:33 38 24 B 49 Phil Cuerel / Rela Hoenner-Zullig Porsche 356C 4:00:00 294:47:01 39 15 S 60 Maryse Clamens / Antoine Sanchez Peugeot 504 Berline 4:00:00 295:44:37 40 16 B 85 Ulrich Koerner / Hans Fueglistaler Porsche 911 4:00:00 311:43:51 41 25 B 96 Lutz Menge / Florian Grashorn Ford Mustang Fastback 4:00:00 313:38:23 42 26 B 64 Stan Gold / Brant Parsons Porsche 911 4:00:00 331:08:19 43 17 B 75 Tony Smyth / Malcolm Lister Rover 100 4:00:00 334:50:17 44 27 B 73 Barry Nash / Neil Ridley Rover 80 4:00:00 352:08:09 45 28 B 94 Kazuyuki Sugiyama / Katsumaro Chikushi Bentley R Saloon 4:00:00 369:10:29 46 29 62 Hitoshi Kato / Marc Ollier Renault 4 4:00:00 371:17:49 47 18 B 97 Jan Pettersson / Cathrine Ockernahl Mercury Park Lane 4:00:00 406:04:35 48 30 B 71 Daniel Spadini / Alexandra Spadini Jaguar Mk1 16:00:00 447:32:10 49 31 66 Albert Bessudo / Joanin Bernard Jaguar XK120 16:00:00 Retired 65 Trish van Zyl / Robert van Zyl Chevrolet Stylemaster 16:00:00 Unclassified 92 Peter Davies / Emma Wilkinson Chevrolet C10 - Retired 76 Ron Solomon / Matt Keeler Mercedes 220 SE - Retired 54 Garrick L. Staples / Hayden Burvill Volkswagen Beetle - Retired

Attention Cannonballers. Guys, I have a neat idea for next year’s Cannonball. Hear me out. 2019 is the next running of the Peking to Paris Rally. For those that haven’t heard of it, it’s a rally that began in the early 1900’s and was discontinued for some time but recently revived. Only cars prior to 1976 are allowed. It starts in China, goes up through Mongolia, through the length of Russia, into western Europe, then eastern Europe to finish in Paris to wine, women and song. It takes about a month to complete. There are several classes. I’m attaching a .pdf with the rules. Now I know an organized race is hard to stomach for such hardened vehicular outlaws such as ourselves, but I think this might be a fun alternative for next year’s run. Please do some Google searching on some P2P racers, it looks like a great time with some truly unique racers. I’ve been planning a model of a P2P racer recently, and it occurred to me it might be a fun Cannonball. Please check out the website and the rules and let me know what you think. This is very likely the toughest automotive endurance race on the planet. I think its time we put our stamp on it. http://www.endurorally.com/pages/the-peking-to-paris-motor-challenge-2019 P2P 2016 Regs FINAL.pdf

I think she was stunning back in the day. Google some photos from the movie Milk Money.

Umm..................did you just post a photo and then compliment it yourself? It is a good looking model though.

I wouldn't dare debate you but if she's had work done it was by the Michelangelo of plastic surgeons. Seen Melanie Griffith lately? Yikes.

I really like it.

This is a very common story. I'll say to you, I've never known a modeler that has disposed of his stash that didn't regret it. Period. Maybe not tomorrow or next week, but eventually. Box it up, store it. Eventually things will smooth out and you'll be looking for a kit. If you absolutely must find a new home for the stuff, find a local model club. Let them know you have a collection for sale.

I dig it. Thumbing your nose at convention please me.

I quite agree. This realization happened about five years ago. With life sucking up 98% of my time, using that 2% well became important to me.