Force

I'm 55 and many of the re-issued kits are new to me too even if they are old tooling, some I have only seen but never had and some I didn't even know about. But with new I mean a new kit made by todays standards and detail level, not kits that were developed in the 60's and 70's with a detail level that was adequate for the time they were originally made...the kit making and detail levels of modern kits has gone forward a lot since then. Well let's move on.

Well some of those 90% casual builders will eventually come to a point where there are nothing new to find too. As I said before, I don't mind re-issues at all but a new kit now and then can't be wrong to keep the interest up.

I had some self awareness and realized that my last post was too much off topic wich I did complain about in it, so I must have removed it when you wrote your answer, that's the reason for the --.

Yeah it's funny, automotive modelers complain about kit prices and then buys aftermarket stuff for a lot more than the kit costs and don't complain at all about that, try to buy a kit over here where the prices are equivalent to $40-50 for a normal AMT/MPC re-issued automotive kit and see how that feels...and then some aftermarket stuff upon that. But Round 2 can't do re-issues only forever as the market will be saturated sooner or later as I don't think everyone will buy one more of the same kit just because they do new boxart, change the decals and throw in tampo printed tires, they will eventually have to do something else to keep the interest up, and a new kit now and then will for sure do that if they do the right subjects. At least I buy kits to build as I'm not a collector...and how many of the same kit do you want to have.

No I believe this is the first time. Nice boxart...but I already have this kit from Italeri so I think I'll pass on it.

One thing about Acme is that if you do more than 6 letters or numbers or have more than one space the plate gets too wide.

As I see it we have given Round 2 a break for over 10 years now, but as I said, I don't mind re-issues as some of them haven't been out for a long time and are very sought after and everyone has to do that to earn money, but an all new kit now and then wouldn't hurt. It has been about 20 years since we saw any new tool full detail car kits from AMT with a couple of exceptions like the new generation Camaro.

Okay, I have wondered about this since I learned that they changed the suspension in the middle of the run for the CO-4070B Transtar II Eagle and I still find it somewhat confusing as they didn't change it on the F-4270 as it, the CO-4070A Transtar and the early run of the CO-4070B Transtar II Eagle was the only ones they had with air ride, and the only kit they changed on was the Transtar II Eagle, yes the CO-4070A was changed to the B version so it disappeared at that time but as far as I know the F-4270 still had the air ride for the whole length of the production and it was available at the same time as the 4300. The 4300 Transtar Eagle, the 5000 Paystar and the later S-series F-2575 and F-2674 all had walking beam suspension from the beginning.

Hmm, that's not good...but one can allways find float tires on the aftermarket.

--

Nice work. I will try to do one myself one of these days.

Nice build Ken!

I hope you are right...all the old US staff was as I understand it laid off after the deal was done so they must have re-instated some of the old staff again and Ed Sexton in particular...that's good news.

I will buy if it comes out.

Many have both a belly pan under the engine and a diaper, the main thing is that you have to contain all 16 quarts of oil to prevent oil downs if the engine breaks.

Here are some from me from my USA and L.A. trip last October. We passed this Pete uphill going north on I-15 before Cajon Junction. Somewhere on Hwy-91 East. Hwy-58 going west just outide Bakersfield CA. This is taken at Tejon Pass on I-5, we're going south. Uphill at Cajun Pass on I-15 north. Same place. We met this Lonestar on I-15 just before Hesperia CA.

Nice build. Revell started to do the "new era" Top Fuel Dragsters in 1987 with Don Garlits Swamp Rat XXX and the last issues they did are the Kenny Bernstein Bud King and Tony Schumacher Army Dragsters from 2002. Unfortunately Revell decided to do these Top Fuel Dragsters (and Funny Cars) at a time when the cars evolved a lot each year and they updated the kits some a couple of times and the last update to the TF kits was when they did the Bud King and Army Dragsters, but they never did enough to get them to the standard the real cars had at the time as the evolution of the cars surpassed them and they didn't keep up. This was very unfortunate because if they had done all necessary changes to get them up to date back then they would be pretty much up to date even now 17 years later as the real Top Fuel Dragsters haven't changed that much visually in that time, so except for wheels, head shield, larger puke tank and belly pan wich has been required by the rules since then they are pretty much the same today as they were back in 2002.

The Bandag Bandit kit is from a time period some years before Martin Carvers record setting, the kit version (Bandag version 1) is from around 1980-81 like all the Tyrone Malone kits are except for the Thermo King version of the Super Boss wich is earlier (1976-79). The "Bandit" still had Bandag Tyrone Malone markings on the tires when Martin set the new record August 26th 1988 and his name was only taped on the doors at the time, otherwise the truck was pretty much like before but somewhat gutted and stripped to get it lighter and some more stuff for safety was added. Martin Carvers name appeared on the tires after he set the record and the paintjob was slightly changed from the version the kit represents and his name was also painted on the doors at the same time, so this is Bandag version 2. The "Bandit" was damaged in a fire at Malones shop some time after the record and the cab was changed to an older one (pre 1973) and the paint scheme changed slightly again, this is the version wich still exists and sits at the Iowa 80 Truck museum (Bandag version 3), the interior is also different from the first versions as it's now all black, the earlier versions was much flashier with beige, white, blue and yellow colors for the interior. So there has been four versions of the Bandag Bandit under it's life, one Thermo King version wich was from the first couple of years and three Bandag slightly different versions from 1979-80 to today. Based on this I think the tires in the Bandag Bandit and Hideout Truck will most likely have Bandag Tyrone Malone markings like the Super Boss, and Papa Truck kits and I would guess the decals would be pretty much the same.as the earler issues of these kits from 1981-82. Because if they would do the later Martin Carver version (Bandag version 2 after 1988) they have to do all new artwork for the decals for both the Bandit and the Hideout Truck as the paint scheme changed on both trucks about the same time. I just hope they will include the "Bandag Bandit AMT Hobby Kit" scripts in gold and blue wich was on the end plates of the rear wing for most of the 80's, this was missing on the first issue. The Bandag version of the Super Boss kit has "Super Boss AMT Hobby Kit" on it's wing end plates and these scripts were put on when AMT did the model kits, and after Martin Carvers record 1988 the scripts on the end plates on the "Bandit" was changed to "Timed By United States Auto Club Bonneville Salt Flats August 88 150.918 mph".

The creativity to do new kits was gone when RC2 bought AMT/ERTL in 1999, most of the good new AMT kits was done before that...time flies...thats over 20 years ago. RC2 didn't do much new and did mostly re-issues over the time they owned the company of wich many had been out very recently, and the same goes for Round 2, they have had the rights to do AMT, MPC kits since 2008 and owns the brands since 2011 and I thought they would have done more new tooling kits by now as most of what they do are re-issues. Don't get me wrong, I like many of the re-issues Round 2 does as they have more imagination than RC2 had and dig in the tooling bank and does things that hasn't been out on the shelves in decades...but a new kit now and then would definately not hurt. Now with Revell sold to Germany, who knows when we get any new tooling kits of American cars...the latest new kits from them was developed before the sale...so Moebius is maybe our last hope.

I buy from Jack at Model Roundup a couple of times a year, and quite large orders each time mostly because kits are very expensive over here and I can't get everything I want and have to wait a long time for new kits to arrive here if they do come at all...so it's sometimes faster and cheaper, I have never had any coupon from them but he has given me a discount sometimes anyway, so I don't know how it works.

No big surprize, to my knowledge there wasn't in any of the earlier issues either.

It doesn't bother me as much but I expect to read about truck kits in the truck section of the forum, not cars.

Well my original T522 kit has Good Years and the box side reads "10 Brand Name Vinyl Tires", they don't specify wich brand tho'. I also have the T500-500 and it has Good Years and a Good Year sticker, same for my T500 with the sleeper, but no Good Year sticker there

This is the truck section so please take the car talk to the car section where there is a similar thread.

I agree with that.