Gimme 5 automotive subjects you'd like to see reissued

[Casey]

http://www.bonediggers.com/2-1/wlazlo/wlazlo.html

7 hours ago, 1972coronet said:

I believe that it was last issued with stock parts as the 1977 annual. 

I think it suffered the same fate as the Gremlin, Pacer, Mustang II, Pinto, and Capri II kits, as detailed here: http://www.bonediggers.com/2-1/wlazlo/wlazlo.html

It would probably take too much work to reissue it stock, and it might even be a moot point, if things were heavily modified as some point when the Matador Grand National kit was reissued.

Here's the last issue from 1977:

 

The relevant page from the AMT 1977 catalog:

[1972coronet]

1 hour ago, Casey said:

I think [ the Matador Coupe ] suffered the same fate as the Gremlin, Pacer, Mustang II, Pinto, and Capri II kits [...]

It would probably take too much work to reissue it stock, and it might even be a moot point, if things were heavily modified as some point when the Matador Grand National kit was reissued.

That was a nice link to a cool bio (see original reply in Casey's post) . 

The Pacer was reissued a few years ago , and it included the stock and the custom parts . I don't know / recall if Round2 had to find / restore the stock parts' tooling in order to reissue that Pacer (?) . The earlier Matador Coupe custom with the stock headlamps isn't too bad ; the "blocked" front iteration looks okay as well . The Pinto is a recent reissue as well ; firstly in stock form , followed by the Pintera issue (not sure if stock parts are included in that issue , as I don't have that one ) .

I'm assuming that the Gremlin , Capri , and Mustang II were irreversibly modified ? 

Edited December 7, 2020 by 1972coronet

[Can-Con]

34 minutes ago, 1972coronet said:

That was a nice link to a cool bio (see original reply in Casey's post) . 

The Pacer was reissued a few years ago , and it included the stock and the custom parts . I don't know / recall if Round2 had to find / restore the stock parts' tooling in order to reissue that Pacer (?) . The earlier Matador Coupe custom with the stock headlamps isn't too bad ; the "blocked" front iteration looks okay as well . The Pinto is a recent reissue as well ; firstly in stock form , followed by the Pintera issue (not sure if stock parts are included in that issue , as I don't have that one ) .

I'm assuming that the Gremlin , Capri , and Mustang II were irreversibly modified ? 

The Gremlin is the same one that's been issued a couple times as stock '75 and '76 cars with street machine parts over the last couple years and the Mustang II was last issued around 2005 in stock form.

I have one of those Matador customs. All the custom parts were add-ons with none of the stock parts, including the body, being modified in any way.  The stock hood, grille and bumpers were not included in the kit but I bet the runners for them were just blocked off.  

Now, IF it was irreversibly made into the stock car kit , I don't know. Maybe they just used the body and whatever was needed with an existing stock car chassis? I do have a copy of the race kit too so maybe I'll compare them sometime.

[Richard Bartrop]

I'd like to see these two come back:

I'm not sure how much work would be involved is switching from metal to plastic bodies, but the others in this series were released in all plastic versions (53 Corvette, '56 T-Bird, Jag XK-120), so it has been done.

 

[Erik Smith]

10 hours ago, 1972coronet said:

I'm assuming that the Gremlin , Capri , and Mustang II were irreversibly modified ? 

I don’t think the Capri was modified much if at all - I have or had versions except the cafe racer (kit 224), but believe the Capri II “S” was released after and it still had an unaltered body. The “S” version did not have any chrome parts, and I don’t have it anymore, and can’t remember if it was changed from earlier versions or just dechromed. So, if nothing else, the “S” tooling should have been good. Market values on the kit, though, aren’t that great considering it’s been out of print for almost 40 years - fairly easy to pick up for $30-40. But would be nice as a “new” release for less $. 

[CapSat 6]

33 minutes ago, Erik Smith said:

I don’t think the Capri was modified much if at all - I have or had versions except the cafe racer (kit 224), but believe the Capri II “S” was released after and it still had an unaltered body. The “S” version did not have any chrome parts, and I don’t have it anymore, and can’t remember if it was changed from earlier versions or just dechromed. So, if nothing else, the “S” tooling should have been good. Market values on the kit, though, aren’t that great considering it’s been out of print for almost 40 years - fairly easy to pick up for $30-40. But would be nice as a “new” release for less $. 

There were no body mods to the Capri. The air dam and flares are add ons. I have one of these, but it was an open box when I got it many years ago, so I can't confirm that the Café Racer always comes with stock bumpers, but I'm pretty sure the stock grille was included with these and otherwise it could be built stock.  

[Luc Janssens]

19 hours ago, Tom Geiger said:

When MPC updated the van they changed the shape of the body around the grille to accommodate it, so the older grille / bumper assembly doesn’t fit.. I tried!  MPC was actually quite earnest in the annual changes so the current body has the larger tail lights and even the indents on the roof are different.. a bunch of work on the body shell to properly backdate.

When Round Two restored the last factory grille prior to that awful ambulance grille that never existed in 1:1, that version is actually the high end grille with stacked rectangular headlights. It would’ve been cool if they did the base model grille with single round headlight. 

I know, the only way to have it back will involve an all new body including the year specific parts, IMHO and if the ROI is there I would advice powers of Round-2 to scan an old annual and re-engineer it to a curbside kit, and emphasize more on the dress-up parts, interior and exterior.

[Casey]

5 hours ago, CapSat 6 said:

There were no body mods to the Capri.

Here's the parts breakdown for the T 224 issue, and the body-specific steps, showing how the builder would enlarge the existing wheel arches and glue the custom flares in place:

 

This wouldn't make the worst reissue. 

[espo]

I never got to build one of these back when they were first issued. I always thought the Capri was an interesting car so I would buy one if it were reissued. 

[Erik Smith]

1 hour ago, Casey said:

Here's the parts breakdown for the T 224 issue, and the body-specific steps, showing how the builder would enlarge the existing wheel arches and glue the custom flares in place:

Interesting, sort of. 
The Cafe racer is the kit T474 without the stock parts. 
Here is the sheet from T474 - same thing about cutting and adding the flares to the “race” version. 

[Erik Smith]

Some more Capri nerd-ness

The mold was altered (I would guess they had to alter it?) from the first release to add the “scored lines” inside the body to guide the removal of material. I never noticed before looking closely at the instruction sheet. 

Edited December 7, 2020 by Erik Smith

[Luc Janssens]

To our English friends here, I wonder what Round2 should add at minimum so one can build it Euro spec, and to the powers at Round2 could it be worth while and generating more then enough extra sales in Europe to cover the expense?.....question questions 

 

[BlackSheep214]

I remember those die cast model kits very well. My sister did one back in the 70s.

[BlackSheep214]

I wouldn't mind having another crack at this one. Cool looking custom car kit though.

[CapSat 6]

18 hours ago, Luc Janssens said:

To our English friends here, I wonder what Round2 should add at minimum so one can build it Euro spec, and to the powers at Round2 could it be worth while and generating more then enough extra sales in Europe to cover the expense?.....question questions 

 

Hmmm...wheels, grille & headlights, maybe the hood (bonnet? :)), bumpers, right-drive dashboard, a rear spoiler and some interior changes? Along with a decals sheet with options for some of the special packages they offered outside the U.S., those changes might get you a UK/Euro-spec Capri.

I think it was offered in Europe a good deal longer than it was offered in the U.S., at least into the mid-80's? It seemed to me that when I visited the UK in the 90's, there were a lot of 2nd gen Capri's there on the streets, sort of like the Camaro or Mustang here. I got a kick out of seeing them as drivers with rust and custom wheels.  

There were just a few other Capri kits, done by Japanese manufacturers, but mostly racing type-cars. If Round 2 did decide to tool up a few new bits to broaden the appeal of the kit, they could have a good seller in Europe. Overall, the detail level on this kit was pretty decent, and I don't think anything like that had ever been offered before. 

[Richard Bartrop]

 

[Mr. Metallic]

On 12/2/2020 at 8:33 PM, Erik Smith said:

Any of the 66-69 Falcons. 

Pretty sure the 66-69 Falcon tool became this, but now that i've secured a couple glue bombs for a pretty penny they'll surely find the tooling ...

 

[Mr. Metallic]

On 12/3/2020 at 9:40 AM, Oldcarfan27 said:

Whatever DID happen to Revells 32 roadster? I got one when they were readily available and then they weren't. 

Never saw them again, unless the Rat Roaster is the same kit.

This is the last reissue of the roadster that i can recall, before the Rat Roaster (which is a new tool). Maybe something happened to the tooling (worn out?) and that's why they went all new with the RR? Or perhaps it's just patiently waiting the the warehouse to be run again. Although I would prefer to see the RR instead since it has some unique parts. maybe just don't do the RR branding?

The kit from this series that really needs to come back is the Sedan. It was only issued once, and commands strong prices on eBay, WHEN they come up at all. I know eBay pricing is not a true indicator of the need for a reissue, but the scarcity of availability is. 

[Erik Smith]

3 hours ago, Mr. Metallic said:

Pretty sure the 66-69 Falcon tool became this, but now that i've secured a couple glue bombs for a pretty penny they'll surely find the tooling ...

 

Or retool the body like the nova wagon.

[Captain Spaulding]

Another one I'd like to see reissued, not sure if it ever has been.

[slusher]

12 hours ago, Mr. Metallic said:

This is the last reissue of the roadster that i can recall, before the Rat Roaster (which is a new tool). Maybe something happened to the tooling (worn out?) and that's why they went all new with the RR? Or perhaps it's just patiently waiting the the warehouse to be run again. Although I would prefer to see the RR instead since it has some unique parts. maybe just don't do the RR branding?

The kit from this series that really needs to come back is the Sedan. It was only issued once, and commands strong prices on eBay, WHEN they come up at all. I know eBay pricing is not a true indicator of the need for a reissue, but the scarcity of availability is. 

I.am surprised these wasn’t reissued as popular as they was."

[Sledsel]

On 12/7/2020 at 8:57 AM, Erik Smith said:

I don’t think the Capri was modified much if at all - I have or had versions except the cafe racer (kit 224), but believe the Capri II “S” was released after and it still had an unaltered body. The “S” version did not have any chrome parts, and I don’t have it anymore, and can’t remember if it was changed from earlier versions or just dechromed. So, if nothing else, the “S” tooling should have been good. Market values on the kit, though, aren’t that great considering it’s been out of print for almost 40 years - fairly easy to pick up for $30-40. But would be nice as a “new” release for less $. 

The Mustang II was not modified for the Python kit. The panels were add ons.

 

[Erik Smith]

I see an empty slot on my shelf, or at least a space I could jam another box, so maybe these:

[catpack68]

I would to see these two reissued.The prices of the Tamiya Karmman Ghia kit have been crazy.The Bronco would be a big seller if it was released without the F/C.The Revell 32 Ford Highboy,the 32 Stacey David Rat Roadster and the Revell 32 Ford Sedan kits would be good choices too.

Edited December 10, 2020 by catpack68

[Oldcarfan27]

Speaking of the Capri,

And these too