A reasonably SERIOUS new-tool '70 Charger Revell is hiding in plain sight...

[Edsel-Dan]

Wonder why they did not offer both closed headlight & open light grills as that car(s) has been seen both ways

in the different movies.

or might that be in the Stock kit coming next year??

[magicmustang]

This release reminds me of the Revell Dick Landy '68 Charger that came out before the release of the '68 Charger 2 in 1. The Landy could be built only one way and the later 2 in 1 had parts for both stock and race versions with different decals.

Found my Revell 2 in 1 '68 Charger (2008 release date) in my stash. Still had a Hobby Lobby price sticker for $17.99. The new Revell kits are now $29.99 but there is "no inflation" in America, really!  

[Chuck Kourouklis]

Seeing that there's been only one grille in any of these Chargers up till now, I don't think an open headlight option is all that likely - but you never know.

If there are any door scoop covers in the offing, I think it's a lot more likely that those will be separate rather than molded to another '70 body shell, since the body mold is usually the most expensive one to develop.

[Sport Suburban]

If Revell offers a stock 70 R/T I'll probably buy one as I really like them.

I also remember when the 68 Dick Landy kit came out. I bought one but It could not be built stock. I bought the Pro Modeler 69 and kit bashed them to make a stock 68 Charger R/T. They had all the stock parts between the two kits. Of course after I built mine they offered up the stock 2 in 1 68 Charger kit with new dog dish wheels. So I just had to buy that one too.!

 

[Chuck Kourouklis]

For that Special Edition '68, they mostly combined existing tooling into one box; do think the interior was updated for the Landy car, but don't recall if they went so far as a rear seat for that.  So maybe work up a new back seat, add steel wheels and dog dishes for a little value added, and there's your Special Ed.

Here's where my memory may fog a little:  I believe the Landy car still had the '69 signal lights on it, but they were removed for the '68 SE.  One little thing I think carried all the way through: R/M's basic body conversion was evidently a new mold insert for a smooth top, rather than the '69's vinyl texture. Why would I suppose this?

Because there was, on the Landy car at least, this TINY section just at the rear base of the drip molding on both sides - 1mm square, maybe? - where the mold parted, that still carried the vinyl texture from the side sections of the mold.

[horsepower]

IF. there is in fact a stock version coming. I hope they tool the RT door scoops separately

I'd like a non R/T version released, with the option of building a run of the mill Charger with a 383 torqueflite, deluxe 14" wheelcovers, and would it be to much to ask for a standard production grille without that R/T emblem?  And please don't issue whatever the next release is with those door bubbles molded on the body. That will just kill it for those of us who don't want to build a factory hot rod. Until then I'm keeping my hopes up.

[magicmustang]

For that Special Edition '68, they mostly combined existing tooling into one box; do think the interior was updated for the Landy car, but don't recall if they went so far as a rear seat for that.  So maybe work up a new back seat, add steel wheels and dog dishes for a little value added, and there's your Special Ed.

Here's where my memory may fog a little:  I believe the Landy car still had the '69 signal lights on it, but they were removed for the '68 SE.  One little thing I think carried all the way through: R/M's basic body conversion was evidently a new mold insert for a smooth top, rather than the '69's vinyl texture. Why would I suppose this?

Because there was, on the Landy car at least, this TINY section just at the rear base of the drip molding on both sides - 1mm square, maybe? - where the mold parted, that still carried the vinyl texture from the side sections of the mold.

Chuck, I never noticed before (because I still haven't built it) but I looked at my '68 2 n 1 Charger body and there is a 1mm section of vinyl at the base of the drip molding. And there are no side signal lights molded on the body, just decals.

Edited August 19, 2016 by magicmustang

[Sport Suburban]

For that Special Edition '68, they mostly combined existing tooling into one box; do think the interior was updated for the Landy car, but don't recall if they went so far as a rear seat for that.  So maybe work up a new back seat, add steel wheels and dog dishes for a little value added, and there's your Special Ed.

Here's where my memory may fog a little:  I believe the Landy car still had the '69 signal lights on it, but they were removed for the '68 SE.  One little thing I think carried all the way through: R/M's basic body conversion was evidently a new mold insert for a smooth top, rather than the '69's vinyl texture. Why would I suppose this?

Because there was, on the Landy car at least, this TINY section just at the rear base of the drip molding on both sides - 1mm square, maybe? - where the mold parted, that still carried the vinyl texture from the side sections of the mold.

The Dick Landy kit had all of the stock 68 Interior. The body was interesting as it had the 69 square marker lights and the directions said to fill them in with putty and use the 68 style decals for the marker lights. The body was different in the fact that it had no vinyl top on it but a small portion of the molding were still there and needed to be sanded off. I chose to use the 69 kit body with the vinyl top for my build at the time. So they did a modified insert for the body at the time but left the 69 markers. The later 2 in one kit has no markers on it at all. 

[Luc Janssens]

Because there was, on the Landy car at least, this TINY section just at the rear base of the drip molding on both sides - 1mm square, maybe? - where the mold parted, that still carried the vinyl texture from the side sections of the mold.

That's a remainder from retooling the body tool, if you have an original chopped roof Pro-Modeler '69 Charger, you can see that there no such thing on the C-pillar.

'bout the backseat, the Landy kit has one.

Anyway, like what I see here, but will wait for the stock version.

I too find it bizarre that there's no exposed headlamp option, if it were me, I would've molded the grille separate from the loop bumper, for easier detail painting and for offering the kit with or without hidden/exposed headlamps.

 

Edited August 19, 2016 by Luc Janssens
spelling mistake

[Chuck Kourouklis]

Kool, and thanks for reminders, gents - I've had my Landy kit in storage so long, don't think I've seen it in 10 years at least.

[Rob Hall]

Kool, and thanks for reminders, gents - I've had my Landy kit in storage so long, don't think I've seen it in 10 years at least.

Lol...same here, mine is in a storage unit in Denver.

As far as the F&F '70, I'll probably get a couple, do one as an F&F replica and one as a street machine w/ maybe a 6 pack hood scoop or the Hemi hood scoop from the '68 kit, along with some narrow and wide resin steelies.  I've got an MPC '70 R/T annual and a resin '70, so I'm set for stock versions.

[Chuck Kourouklis]

On "mainstreamer" variations: based on the no-name Polyglas tires for the fronts, the unplated valve covers, and the fact that the transmission is now integrated with the engine halves instead of separate to accommodate an option, I'm guessing the likelihood is highest for a factory '70 Hemi R/T - BUT.  The engine parts are all off on their own tree, aren't they?  Seems the alternator on the chrome tree would be just fine for a wedge too.

Muzzle-to-bone, I'd bet on Hemi R/T first, then maybe a new tree for a wedge down the road.  But again, this is all just a w. a. g. reading tea leaves from the tooling, not based on any kind of "intel."

Separate grilles covering headlight buckets behind would have been VERY cool, but in addition to the notorious fiscal conservatism Monogram brought to the table, Revell/Monogram's schedule has been pretty ambitious in 2016. Between the '83 Olds, the upcoming C7R and Bronco, the rest of the '29/'30 Ford they unleashed this year, and surprise surprise, this Charger, you could call it 4 1/2 new tools released this year for glue kits.  5 1/2 if you count the Ford GT snapper.  With that aggressive a schedule,  it's not easy to get too extravagant on any one tool, and the long-awaited Bronco looks set to be the one getting the most engineering "love" this year.

[Mr. Muppet]

Does the wedge motor from the '68-69 kits fit the engine & transmission mounts?

[Chuck Kourouklis]

That's a good question, Sam,  and maybe they don't - the block mounts were staggered on the '68-'69, but they look dead across one another on this '70.   Might look into a comparison later...

[keyser]

Nice Chuck. If grille is on separate tree, perhaps a open light grille with other bumper is is store too? Non R/T with open lights option maybe? Either way, I need one. 

Lucky bastage getting this. Maybe you'll get some love from them next round since you stamped this one with approval 

[mikemopar70]

IF. there is in fact a stock version coming. I hope they tool the RT door scoops separately

Mr Sexton, told me at last NNL east that a stock version is in the works, we may see it sooner than we expect!!!

After all it's the only missing link on this second generation Charger body syle!! 

[MrObsessive]

Mr Sexton, told me at last NNL east that a stock version is in the works, we may see it sooner than we expect!!!

After all it's the only missing link on this second generation Charger body syle!! 

Yes, I heard that from Ed also when I talked to him at length at the NNL East. I'm definitely getting one when the stock version comes out. These things were EVERYWHERE in the high school parking lots when I was there in the late '70's.

I'd like to see a "open headlight" grille offered as most I remember seeing didn't always have the headlight doors operable. It'd be nice to have the option on 'em either opened or closed.

[Edsel-Dan]

I am also wondering how many different F&F movie versions of this kit will be done

This car(s) changed in almost every movie it was in.

And the trailers for the original only show it with the lights Open, so.......

[horsepower]

On "mainstreamer" variations: based on the no-name Polyglas tires for the fronts, the unplated valve covers, and the fact that the transmission is now integrated with the engine halves instead of separate to accommodate an option, I'm guessing the likelihood is highest for a factory '70 Hemi R/T - BUT.  The engine parts are all off on their own tree, aren't they?  Seems the alternator on the chrome tree would be just fine for a wedge too.

Muzzle-to-bone, I'd bet on Hemi R/T first, then maybe a new tree for a wedge down the road.  But again, this is all just a w. a. g. reading tea leaves from the tooling, not based on any kind of "intel."

Separate grilles covering headlight buckets behind would have been VERY cool, but in addition to the notorious fiscal conservatism Monogram brought to the table, Revell/Monogram's schedule has been pretty ambitious in 2016. Between the '83 Olds, the upcoming C7R and Bronco, the rest of the '29/'30 Ford they unleashed this year, and surprise surprise, this Charger, you could call it 4 1/2 new tools released this year for glue kits.  5 1/2 if you count the Ford GT snapper.  With that aggressive a schedule,  it's not easy to get too extravagant on any one tool, and the long-awaited Bronco looks set to be the one getting the most engineering "love" this year.

.You forgot the '48 Ford coupe Police car and it will undoubtedly have variants. Wouldn't the gasser options from the '57 wagon kit work real well on it? And they already have those molds tooled up.

[Robberbaron]

Not only that, but there are even more blatant clues a factory stock Hemi R/T draws nigh:

A private brain trust with whom I first shared this and I are of the opinion that the grille may just be a tiny bit tall for scale - but that engraving is just stupid better than what the preview shots indicated, and the overall piece is comically ahead of what AMT tried to foist on us a few years back. And lookie, an "R/T" badge...

If grille is on separate tree, perhaps a open light grille with other bumper is is store too? Non R/T with open lights option maybe?

Not that I expect a separate grill/bumper assembly, but if they DID do an open light version of the grill, at least it would eliminate the R/T vs. non-R/T issue, since the R/T badge is on the headlight door.

Maybe that's Revell's reasoning with the R/T grill?  The really ambitious who want to duplicate the original F&F Charger can cut the doors out of the grill and install a set of lights, and this also eliminates the R/T badge...

[martinfan5]

Stock version I will buy.

[unclescott58]

Stock version I will buy.

Ditto.

 

[Mr mopar]

I'll buy two of these one to make a Charger 500  .......... I just hope Revell dose a tail light panel with the right trim.

[Daddyfink]

I love you "Stock" snobs! 

[CapSat 6]

Chuck - can I ask a question about the parts: 

 

-the tree with the rad support and firewall. The two rectangular parts in between the front sway bar and the battery / hood latch base. What are they? Could they be torque boxes for the rear subframe? Or are they something else?