Force Posted August 11, 2019 Posted August 11, 2019 One can wonder why MPC decided to use a turbine engine from a competitor, because it looks an awful lot like the Chrysler A-831 Gas Turbine.
Force Posted August 11, 2019 Posted August 11, 2019 Who knows, a turbine option wasn't available in any GM car and if it had been I don't think they would use a Chrysler developed engine. Several car and truck manufacturers tested turbine engines in the late 50's, 60's and 70's and if you do a google search you will see that there were several different designs of gas turbine engines for cars...even Chrysler had 7 generations of gas turbine engines and the A-831 (3rd generation) was the one in their famous turbine car from 1963. Here are some of the generations of turbine engines Chrysler did. GM did tests with gas turbine engines too and here is one of the GM gas turbines from the Firebird III Concept car. But most of their testing was in large trucks. .
Mark Posted August 11, 2019 Posted August 11, 2019 On 8/11/2019 at 2:16 AM, Force said: One can wonder why MPC decided to use a turbine engine from a competitor, because it looks an awful lot like the Chrysler A-831 Gas Turbine. Expand They probably cribbed the Jo-Han engine.
ChrisBcritter Posted August 11, 2019 Posted August 11, 2019 On 12/13/2018 at 5:36 PM, Casey said: Hopefully one day Round2 will be able to reissue the '69 Firebird hardtop in the original box art: Expand I imagine the driver bailed out as the car vaulted over the speedway wall?
Casey Posted April 14, 2023 Posted April 14, 2023 (edited) On 12/13/2018 at 5:36 PM, Casey said: Hopefully one day Round2 will be able to reissue the '69 Firebird hardtop in the original box art: Expand @SteveG has there been any further consideration regarding re-issuing what remains of this kit? IIRC, the "Sundancer" version was listed on the Stevens Int'l 'site, but didn't stay long. Would be nice to have it back with the OHC 6, warts and all. Edited April 14, 2023 by Casey 1
SteveG Posted April 15, 2023 Posted April 15, 2023 On 4/14/2023 at 4:15 PM, Casey said: @SteveG has there been any further consideration regarding re-issuing what remains of this kit? IIRC, the "Sundancer" version was listed on the Stevens Int'l 'site, but didn't stay long. Would be nice to have it back with the OHC 6, warts and all. Expand It's on my to do list with bunch of other that need the tooling inserts reconfigured in order to make an older version. In this case I believe it shares tooling with one of the Camaro's. -Steve 4
stavanzer Posted July 9, 2023 Posted July 9, 2023 On 4/15/2023 at 6:55 PM, SteveG said: It's on my to do list with bunch of other that need the tooling inserts reconfigured in order to make an older version. In this case I believe it shares tooling with one of the Camaro's. -Steve Expand Any News on this kit? If it is just "in the Future" that is fine too.
SteveG Posted July 13, 2023 Posted July 13, 2023 On 7/9/2023 at 2:57 AM, stavanzer said: Any News on this kit? If it is just "in the Future" that is fine too. Expand No news, just a future project idea. I'm currently working on bringing back a different MPC kit item that I found the inserts for, this version was last seen in the late 70's. Announcement will be soon. -Steve 4
iBorg Posted July 13, 2023 Posted July 13, 2023 As for why the original contained a turbine? Remember this was the era where the turbines were big at the Indy 500 which ay the time was by far the biggest race in the US.
Can-Con Posted July 13, 2023 Posted July 13, 2023 On 7/13/2023 at 1:56 PM, iBorg said: As for why the original contained a turbine? Remember this was the era where the turbines were big at the Indy 500 which ay the time was by far the biggest race in the US. Expand Plus most [all?] GMs turbine cars from the '50s and '60s were called Firebirds so the name was associated with turbines at GM. MPC probably thought it was a natural to put a turbine in a car with the Firebird name.
Mark Posted July 13, 2023 Posted July 13, 2023 The turbine engine was also included in the MPC 1969 Camaro annual kit. Makes sense, since it did share a lot of tooling with the Firebird kit: interior bucket (both had the Firebird upholstery pattern), chassis, and clear parts.
1972coronet Posted July 14, 2023 Posted July 14, 2023 Turbine engine option in the White Lightening edition of the 1969 Firebird ?!? My copy - unbuilt - has the Pontiac V8 with an optional 250 Sprint Six ; no turbine . 1
John M. Posted July 15, 2023 Posted July 15, 2023 I have two. One's nicely built as a stock 69 Trans Am and the other is part of a small junkyard diorama.
Bob Ellis Posted July 18, 2023 Posted July 18, 2023 MPC reissues of 1969 Camaros and Firebirds leave a lot to be desired. The Camaro HT has a Pontiac engine
Casey Posted July 21, 2023 Posted July 21, 2023 (edited) On 7/18/2023 at 4:04 PM, Bob Ellis said: MPC reissues of 1969 Camaros and Firebirds leave a lot to be desired. The Camaro HT has a Pontiac engine Expand IIRC both the MOC '69 ("SS") Camaro and Firebird include the Pontiac OHC6 engine...some of us like them. ? I will agree with the quality of the MPC '69 F-bodies, however. The new for '90 1/25 Revell '69 Camaro left the MPC version in the dust, and while the Revell '68 Firebird wasn't quite on the same level IMHO, it's a significant improvement over the MPC stuff. That said, a 2'n'1 reissue of the MPC '69 Firebird with both Trans Am and Sprint versions would probably be warmly welcomed by many. Edited July 21, 2023 by Casey 3
magicmustang Posted July 22, 2023 Posted July 22, 2023 On 7/21/2023 at 10:26 PM, Casey said: IIRC both the MOC '69 ("SS") Camaro and Firebird include the Pontiac OHC6 engine...some of us like them. ? Expand Bought a new Pontiac Tempest OHC 4 bbl Quadrajet Sprint 6 with a Hurst 3 speed on the floor in the spring of 1967. It was a running dude, scared many a GTO for the first 100 feet. But they never got the head cooling right, burned a valve every summer and melted a hole in the head once. It was fun when it wasn't in the shop. 1
PintoKING Posted July 22, 2023 Posted July 22, 2023 On 7/13/2023 at 12:58 PM, SteveG said: No news, just a future project idea. I'm currently working on bringing back a different MPC kit item that I found the inserts for, this version was last seen in the late 70's. Announcement will be soon. -Steve Expand ...version last seen in the late 70's..... 1978 Chevette? 1978 Pinto? 1957 Corvette "gasser" style (non tilt-front-end)? 1/20 1969 Ford van? Chevrolet Monza? Vette-van? Ford T street-rod? "The Grand Superfly" Pontiac? (that one is YUMMY!)
stavanzer Posted July 22, 2023 Posted July 22, 2023 On 7/22/2023 at 4:04 AM, PintoKING said: "The Grand Superfly" Pontiac? (that one is YUMMY!) Expand Yes! So much "Yes" for this kit.
SteveG Posted July 23, 2023 Posted July 23, 2023 On 7/22/2023 at 4:04 AM, PintoKING said: ...version last seen in the late 70's..... 1978 Chevette? 1978 Pinto? 1957 Corvette "gasser" style (non tilt-front-end)? 1/20 1969 Ford van? Chevrolet Monza? Vette-van? Ford T street-rod? "The Grand Superfly" Pontiac? (that one is YUMMY!) Expand More along the lines of a significant tooling change to something we've run before, like how we brought back the MPC '81 Chevy "Sod Buster" pickup. -Steve 3 1
Luc Janssens Posted July 23, 2023 Posted July 23, 2023 On 7/23/2023 at 2:03 PM, SteveG said: More along the lines of a significant tooling change to something we've run before, like how we brought back the MPC '81 Chevy "Sod Buster" pickup. -Steve Expand 71-78 Dodge Van? 2
dodgefever Posted July 23, 2023 Posted July 23, 2023 On 7/23/2023 at 6:24 PM, Luc Janssens said: 71-78 Dodge Van? Expand Beat me to it. I hope so...
Luc Janssens Posted July 23, 2023 Posted July 23, 2023 On 7/23/2023 at 6:34 PM, dodgefever said: Beat me to it. I hope so... Expand It's a blank canvas waiting for creative designs and IMHO the best looking Van design ever. 2
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