Everything Is Ok

[OldTrucker]

First off, to my friends and family that I have not spoken to yet, please know that I am OK!!

I was a little shaken up this afternoon as I was robbed at a gas station in Bourbonnais. After my hands stopped trembling, I managed to call the police. They were quick to respond and calmed me down. All that was taken was my money, about $70.00. The police asked me if I could identify who did it.

I said yes. It was pump number 2!

[stavanzer]

Only $70.00?

It was $5.59 Per gallon yesterday, here in Central California. 16 Gallons was over $89.00..!

L.A is even worse.

[espo]

You guys may hate me for this. I filled up at Costco in Lenexa Ks at $3.45 per gallon yesterday. While gas seems too always be lower in the KC Metro area than the rest of the country, and some of that is based on the taxes I'm sure, the price has dropped over a dime a gallon in a week. There may be hope that gas prices will stabilize again at some semblance of reason soon.  

[Oldcarfan27]

So funny!!

You had me going, I was concerned for your safety!

Edited March 25, 2022 by Oldcarfan27

[stavanzer]

California prices are going up every day now.

I've seen it go up 20 cents in one day. Losing the refinery in Richmond will not help anything.

[stitchdup]

I dont know why you guys are complaining, gas is over ten bucks a gallon where i am, and from next week I'll be paying more for electric than for rent.

[MeatMan]

1 hour ago, stitchdup said:

I dont know why you guys are complaining, gas is over ten bucks a gallon where i am, and from next week I'll be paying more for electric than for rent.

Wow Les, that's a high cost for dead dinos!

[Joe Handley]

I've got to fill up tonight, looks like the local Thornton's is going to be $3.94/gal for E-85 with a $.10/gal disc I have through the customer card, which beats $4.29 for 87  or $4.99 for 92!

[NYLIBUD]

$4.05 for regular here on LI,NY.Weird cause last week it was $4.40+.

[OldTrucker]

20 hours ago, Joe Handley said:

I've got to fill up tonight, looks like the local Thornton's is going to be $3.94/gal for E-85 with a $.10/gal disc I have through the customer card, which beats $4.29 for 87  or $4.99 for 92!

I'm in the middle of farm country living in a small farm town. We have two gas stations and neither sell E-85 because no one was buying it and it would go bad in their tanks!

Got some E-85 at the only place in the bigger town where we go to shop that sells it. Got terrible mileage compared to regular gas.

[espo]

24 minutes ago, OldTrucker said:

I'm in the middle of farm country living in a small farm town. We have two gas stations and neither sell E-85 because no one was buying it and it would go bad in their tanks!

Got some E-85 at the only place in the bigger town where we go to shop that sells it. Got terrible mileage compared to regular gas.

Your gas milage issues is why no one would buy it, not to mention the damage too fuel line components especially on older cars and trucks. Some of the local stations around here sell non E-85 gas and the regular grade costs as much as the E-85 premium gas. My own experience has been that I will get a couple more miles per gallon plus a noticeable increase in performance than with the E-85. The price can also vary depending on the way that your state or even county tax the fuel.  

[Smoke Wagon]

Still about 4.30-4.50 around here. I might have to take up gold prospecting as another hobby to help balance my checkbook 

[Oldcarfan27]

Used to be the "one armed bandits" were slot machines,

Nowadays it's the gas pump!

[slusher]

On 3/24/2022 at 9:43 AM, OldTrucker said:

First off, to my friends and family that I have not spoken to yet, please know that I am OK!!

I was a little shaken up this afternoon as I was robbed at a gas station in Bourbonnais. After my hands stopped trembling, I managed to call the police. They were quick to respond and calmed me down. All that was taken was my money, about $70.00. The police asked me if I could identify who did it.

I said yes. It was pump number 2!

Glad you wasn’t hurt. No amount of money is wort a life. I use to worry about being robbed when I would close the convenience store and gas station in the 80’s..

[BlackSheep214]

On 3/24/2022 at 12:31 PM, stavanzer said:

California prices are going up every day now.

I've seen it go up 20 cents in one day. Losing the refinery in Richmond will not help anything.

California is a nanny state and one of the top 3 highest taxed state in the United States (New York and Massachusetts are the other two). Gas prices has been going slowly as barrels of oil prices are dropping too. I just don’t understand why California gas prices are still rising when the rest of the US they’re dropping.

New York’s highest gas prices was $4.46 - $4.50/gallon and now at average $4.16 (BJs Wholesale Club) - $4.25/gallon everywhere else. Methinks Oil Corporates are greedy in the state of California taking advantage of price gouging.

[Rodent]

California is what some refer to as a "petroleum island". There are no incoming pipelines from other states. Oil not pumped here comes in overland or by ship. That increases the cost of "raw materials". That is only part of it of course. As Alan says, we also always seem to "lose a refinery" at the worst possible time.

[Oldcarfan27]

5 hours ago, BlackSheep214 said:

I just don’t understand why California gas prices are still rising when the rest of the US they’re dropping.

I could tell you, but then this thread would get locked!

2 hours ago, Rodent said:

As Alan says, we also always seem to "lose a refinery" at the worst possible time.

How convenient, huh? Me thinks there's a rat.

See comment above.?

[deuces wild]

$3.99 a gallon last time I  looked....??

[stavanzer]

I work in the oilfields now, and for Ten years before this for Schlumberger, and have worked in the past as a Dispatcher for a Tanker Co. delivering fuel from the refineries to gas stations. I know quite a bit about the whole California Gas situation. As Steve says, To tell the truth involves some ugly political truths, and the thread would be locked.

I can say the this. California imports approx 70% of it's refined gas from foreign countries. We refine the other 30% ourselves. We have unique Taxes, Fuel Blends, and Supply Issues. 90% of our Gas moves by Truck since there are not many major pipelines. Lastly, there is a vocal and co-ordinated effort in Sacramento to shut down and stop ALL Oil drilling and refining. I won't say more than that except to note that this is not a conspiracy theory, as some California Leaders have given both Honest and Public statements to this effect. See many comments from the California Air Resources Board. (C.A.R.B.), and our Governor's pronouncement last year about wanting to ban all but Electric Cars by 2030-2035.

So, Gas prices will shoot up here, and fall very, very slowly. My prediction is that the prices will rise past $7.00-$8.00, and then stall out. They will possibly start to drift slowly down in the Fall, when we change back to the cheaper Fall Blend. This assumes that the world political situation does not change for the worse regarding the World Oil Supply. If things worsen (for whatever reason) then things here in the U.S. could get far worse.

And to the main point, is "Big Gas" stiffing us on the price? Yes, every chance they get. But, the Federal Government watches them closely in that regard, so it is a matter of pennies per gallon. Those pennies add up, but up until now, it has been kept in check by Gov't threats behind closed doors. Right now, however, circumstances are unique, and I have no idea what they are doing and thinking.

That is all I can safely say.

[BlackSheep214]

3 hours ago, stavanzer said:

See many comments from the California Air Resources Board. (C.A.R.B.), and our Governor's pronouncement last year about wanting to ban all but Electric Cars by 2030-2035.

 

Who can afford to buy an electric car? just saw on the news a couple nights ago they say the average price for a COMPACT car is about $26K; SUV - $35K 0r more, Full size truck $50K and Electric car - $56k These are base model prices depending on region of the US. Nope. I'll never buy an electric car. Can't afford one. Who can nowadays?

 

But I'll tell you this, classic automobile owners (not just in California but all across the United States should other states follow suit with this stupid ban on gasoline powered classic cars) are gonna revolt with this ban. We need to stand up to these environmentalist nutcases and say NO.

Edited March 27, 2022 by BlackSheep214

[Xingu]

Steer away from political discussion. Not only will the thread be locked, the offenders may have 30 days to sit at their bench and actually build models.

[BlackSheep214]

9 hours ago, Xingu said:

Steer away from political discussion. Not only will the thread be locked, the offenders may have 30 days to sit at their bench and actually build models.

Not my intention in making it into a political discussion. Just expressing my opinion on electric cars.