Saturday Morning (4-22-23 UPDATE!!!!) NNL East new model car kit news? Please post updates here....

[drodg]

5 minutes ago, 1972coronet said:

Exactly what I'm thinking. But, contrary to my most-recent statement; upon again reviewing the prototype's photos, it would appear that the 340 looks better in this iteration. That air cleaner appears different from the original (and current 1976 Dart Sport, ante seq.) ; likewise, its valve covers look better - nicer - as well. 

I hope that a Six Pack induction is included ! 

The AMT-specific 1971 Duster 340 will undoubtedly provide some bashing-potential. 

I hate being critical on an up and coming release especially one we have been waiting a few years for but the exhaust tips don't look correct to me either.  Of course that is an easy fix.  

[1972coronet]

22 minutes ago, drodg said:

I hate being critical on an up and coming release especially one we have been waiting a few years for but the exhaust tips don't look correct to me either.  Of course that is an easy fix.  

I didn't see the exhaust tip until I watched the video (a few minutes ago). They do appear to be incorrect ; the size of them alone is off. 

My word, I sound like a griping old man ! 

I share your sentiment regarding being critical, especially when criticism - my criticism - is based upon a prototype. I'm just beyond happy that the Demon is available again ! Let the en masse eBay dump party begin !

[drodg]

3 minutes ago, 1972coronet said:

I didn't see the exhaust tip until I watched the video (a few minutes ago). They do appear to be incorrect ; the size of them alone is off. 

My word, I sound like a griping old man ! 

I share your sentiment regarding being critical, especially when criticism - my criticism - is based upon a prototype. I'm just beyond happy that the Demon is available again ! Let the en masse eBay dump party begin !

I so agree and I hate criticizing a prototype..    It is so great we will have this kit again.  

[niteowl7710]

44 minutes ago, drodg said:

I so agree and I hate criticizing a prototype..    It is so great we will have this kit again.  

Now would be the time to criticize it and get it corrected before it gets committed in tooling steel for all of eternity.

[1972coronet]

2 hours ago, niteowl7710 said:

Now would be the time to criticize it and get it corrected before it gets committed in tooling steel for all of eternity.

A truly valid point. Personally, I just don't want to come off as being only negative and nit-picky, and I feel that I'm exhibiting those characteristics regarding the 1971 Demon 340 (and other instances I'm sure).
I recognise that @SteveGmentioned (to paraphrase) "Before I sign off on [the camper for the F-100 pickup]" . With that in mind, I hope that Steve [et al.] reads the constructive comments regarding some of the prototype's 'shortcomings', and that he'll address our concerns. 

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Other than its appearance in the AMT 1969 Chevy Fleetside kit I've yet to find any other reference photos of that exact camper shell, does anyone know if it was based on a real camper top design?   It would be nice to know before I sign off on it.

-Steve 

Edited April 24, 2023 by 1972coronet
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[Rob Hall]

4 minutes ago, 1972coronet said:

A truly valid point. Personally, I just don't want to come off as being only negative and nit-picky, and I feel that I'm exhibiting those characteristics regarding the 1971 Demon 340 (and other instances I'm sure).
I recognise that @SteveGmentioned (to paraphrase) "Before I sign off on [the camper for the F-100 pickup]" . With that in mind, I hope that Steve [et al.] reads the constructive comments regarding some of the prototype's 'shortcomings', and that he'll address our concerns. 

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Here is the verbatim quote 

Other than its appearance in the AMT 1969 Chevy Fleetside kit I've yet to find any other reference photos of that exact camper shell, does anyone know if it was based on a real camper top design?   It would be nice to know before I sign off on it.

-Steve 

I wasn't around in '63, but I have been to a lot of campgrounds and RVing over the last 45 years...never seen one with that unusual stepped design.   Ones like these below are more familiar on older trucks, I would think...

[1972coronet]

1 hour ago, Rob Hall said:

I wasn't around in '63, but I have been to a lot of campgrounds and RVing over the last 45 years...never seen one with that unusual stepped design.   

I wasn't around in '63 either (haha) -- that was 7 years before my current existence. However, in those 53 years, I can't recall ever having seen a camper like the one in the AMT '63 F-100 either. It's possible that AMT was basing that camper upon a prototype which never saw production; and, just as likely, that camper is based upon some obscure design which was produced in low numbers before its manufacturer going defunct or it was scrapped then redesigned. 

[Jordan White]

Yeah after doing a quick Google search for "1963 slide in camper" I don't see anything that looks close to the kit camper. However, what I wouldn't give to have one of these for real! ?

[Mercuryman54]

12 hours ago, stavanzer said:

Ford. It is the old Revell Parts Pack Motor. 

If you are talking about the Ford F-100 pickups. Those engines are Ford Y-blocks! They have a similar look to a small block Chevy. They were introduced in 1954 in Fords and Mercuries maybe a year earlier in Lincolns. Similar exhaust manifold ports, some even had a ramhorn manifold similar to the Chevies, and the distributor was in the rear of the block.

[Rob Hall]

2 hours ago, Jordan White said:

Yeah after doing a quick Google search for "1963 slide in camper" I don't see anything that looks close to the kit camper. However, what I wouldn't give to have one of these for real! ?

That is a really neat camper. Looks like a boat cabin kinda…

[stavanzer]

3 hours ago, 1972coronet said:

 

this Ford motor.

[Muncie]

The camper probably never existed... but it looks like one that I'm sure I saw in an advertisement in the back of Popular Science or Popular Mechanics magazines back in 1963.  Yeah, I don't think I would trust my memory 60 years either. 

[dodgefever]

21 hours ago, Raoul Ross said:

What engine is that supposed to represent? The valve covers look like SBC with the distributor in the back but the exhaust ports are equidistant....?

It's the Ford FE parts pack engine.   No valve cover bolt detail and yes, the distributor is in the wrong place (per the instructions).  It would have made more sense to have an offset, angled or front cover distributor drive, but that's easy enough to rectify.

[Jordan White]

8 hours ago, Rob Hall said:

That is a really neat camper. Looks like a boat cabin kinda…

I saw an old article that said it was so people could ride in the camper and have a good view if there wasn't enough space in the truck cab!

[bbowser]

25 minutes ago, Jordan White said:

I saw an old article that said it was so people could ride in the camper and have a good view if there wasn't enough space in the truck cab!

Just be careful of those low bridges!

[Can-Con]

I think you guys searching around in and for 1963 for that camper are barking up the wrong tree. 

The camper wasn't in the '63 annual issue and, IIRC, it didn't appear until the issue with it on the box, which, again, IIRC was the third issue after the one with the go-cart. 

I think that issue didn't come out until around '69. I'd look more to the end of the '60s for it, not the first.

[GMP440]

3 minutes ago, Can-Con said:

I think you guys searching around in and for 1963 for that camper are barking up the wrong tree. 

The camper wasn't in the '63 annual issue and, IIRC, it didn't appear until the issue with it on the box, which, again, IIRC was the third issue after the one with the go-cart. 

I think that issue didn't come out until around '69. I'd look more to the end of the '60s for it, not the first.

That camper shell was part of the 68 or 69 Chevy c/10 truck kit.

[Can-Con]

Just now, GMP440 said:

That camper shell was part of the 68 or 69 Chevy c/10 truck kit.

'69, yes, I know. 

Actually I actually pointed that out to someone myself a few days ago. 

[drodg]

13 hours ago, 1972coronet said:

I wasn't around in '63 either (haha) -- that was 7 years before my current existence. However, in those 53 years, I can't recall ever having seen a camper like the one in the AMT '63 F-100 either. It's possible that AMT was basing that camper upon a prototype which never saw production; and, just as likely, that camper is based upon some obscure design which was produced in low numbers before its manufacturer going defunct or it was scrapped then redesigned. 

Oh man I feel old I was around in 1963 !  A little kid but around!

[Brian Austin]

For information regarding any possible real-world connection to the camper shell, maybe contact the RV/Motorhome (industry) Hall of Fame Museum in Elkhart, IN.

Is the camper included with the El Camino based on any particular prototype?  I always thought it seemed a bit...cramped looking.

[oldcarfan]

On 4/22/2023 at 9:53 AM, Can-Con said:

Looks to me line the "Pinto Street Rod" version without the hood and rear window louvers.

This is so funny, I was just unpacking some old boxes and found two built up and one still in box Poison Pintos.

[charlie8575]

On 4/22/2023 at 11:35 AM, RDean58 said:

I can wait for those 1967 Galaxie kits until next year. I have two I'm building now. That 63 with the camper is cool and I could see one of those Demons making its way to my collection. The 60 Pickup is on my "buy" list along with the much delayed (to me) 71 Muskrat.

 

 

 

It would honestly not surprise me if exactly this happened.

Charlie Larkin

[OldNYJim]

On 4/25/2023 at 11:58 PM, Brian Austin said:

For information regarding any possible real-world connection to the camper shell, maybe contact the RV/Motorhome (industry) Hall of Fame Museum in Elkhart, IN.

Is the camper included with the El Camino based on any particular prototype?  I always thought it seemed a bit...cramped looking.

I had no idea that museum existed - and it’s not far from me!  Looks interesting…thanks for the heads up!

(sorry for the thread hijack)

[Mr mopar]

Was there any Talk about the '68 Dodge Coronet Hardtop ?

[Mopeyguy]

2 hours ago, Mr mopar said:

Was there any Talk about the '68 Dodge Coronet Hardtop ?

@Mr mopar later this year to be released