Tamiya spray cans banned in Canada!!!

[iamsuperdan]

3 minutes ago, maxwell48098 said:

Ironic for the past two years, or longer, Canada has had wildfires burning unabated dumping millions of tons of toxins and carbon into the atmosphere, but Tamiya spray paints are dangerous!  Where I live in the lower 48, we've even been blessed by the smoke from these Canadian fires resulting in air quality alerts and warnings, and we worry about global warming and mandating EVs?  politics in place of actual science is always dangerous for the guy on the bottom, but never the politicians.  Weird world we live in.

Right. We should ban wildfires.

Burning "unabated?" Seriously? I guess you haven't watched any of the hundreds of news reports outlining the massive efforts to get the fires put out and/or under control? Calling them unabated implies that nothing is being done, which is 100% false.

[iamsuperdan]

Oh, and a warning for all.

Enjoy this thread for now, because I would guess we'll be shutting it down before too long. 

Right now, this is walking the line of politics...teasing a crossing of the line. 

If we do have to shut it down for politics, we will do so, and will issue 30 day vacations to those who can't resist crossing that line.

 

 

[Bill Eh?]

The Canadian distributor for Tamiya products is Borgfeldt (Canada) Limited. I was fortunate to have a business relationship with them in the past. I just sent off an inquiry email to them pertaining to this situation. When I receive a reply, I will pass on said information.

[StevenGuthmiller]

2 hours ago, Ace-Garageguy said:

Hmmmmm...I'm just not seeing the "hysteria" part.

Could you point it out? I'm kinda slow.

Yeah, the discussion seems to me to be a little bit closer to investigation than hysteria.

Topics like this are how things get hashed out and the truth gets discovered.

 

 

 

Steve

[StevenGuthmiller]

1 hour ago, maxwell48098 said:

Ironic for the past two years, or longer, Canada has had wildfires burning unabated dumping millions of tons of toxins and carbon into the atmosphere, but Tamiya spray paints are dangerous!  Where I live in the lower 48, we've even been blessed by the smoke from these Canadian fires resulting in air quality alerts and warnings, and we worry about global warming and mandating EVs?  politics in place of actual science is always dangerous for the guy on the bottom, but never the politicians.  Weird world we live in.

I live in Minnesota, close to the North Dakota border and within a couple hundred miles of the Canadian border, and I can certainly attest to that!

It's not only been this year, but the past couple of summers.

The US government should begin sanctioning Canada for polluting our air! 

 

 

 

Steve

[HomerS]

2 minutes ago, StevenGuthmiller said:

The US government should begin sanctioning Canada for polluting our air! 

 

I'd be on board sanctioning Canada for the polar blasts that come down in January/February.  Not a winter fan to begin with but then these sub zero temps can be unreal.  Bun warmers and steering wheel warmer are one thing I wont be able to give up on a car going forward.

 

[Bill Eh?]

I just received an email back from Borgfeldt.

 

Borgfeldt Info

12:18 PM (48 minutes ago)

 

Hi Bill,

Thank-you for your email.

 Unfortunately, we have received notice from Environment Canada that some of the paints include a chemical with too high of a concentration to import without a permit.  As such we have removed all of the Tamiya Aerosols and some other items from sale.  We are working with our suppliers on clarifying SDS across the colours individually and potential formula changes to meet Canadian regulations.

We should have more updates soon once we receive the final documents from Environment Canada and news from our suppliers.

Meanwhile, the retail stores can still sell any inventory they have but we cannot re-stock them.

Customer service

[Xingu]

There is probably a legitimate reason for the ban and unfortunately the model paint industry and it's likely less than 1% market share are caught up in it. Until it it gets worked out, you can always go back to brush painting.

Just a reminder to not make political statements about this. You won't have anything to do on your 30 day ban, since you can't spray any models.

[kelson]

I live in Western Canada and my local Hobbyshop posted a similar notice yesterday,luckily i have an airbrush so i can still buy bottled paint,but for people who don't airbrush this is going to be tough on them.?

[NOBLNG]

Great reason to get an airbrush if you don’t already have one!?

Edited September 25, 2024 by NOBLNG

[bobthehobbyguy]

First off saying there is a ban is an overstatement. What is actually happening is a moratorium . There was a similar situation a few years ago with Tamiya having to change the labels on the spray cans  and it was unavailable for a while.

Sounds like a good time to buy and learn how to use an airbrush.

[StevenGuthmiller]

3 hours ago, HomerS said:

I'd be on board sanctioning Canada for the polar blasts that come down in January/February. 

I'll go along with that!

 

 

 

Steve

[StevenGuthmiller]

1 hour ago, Xingu said:

There is probably a legitimate reason for the ban

Of course.

There always seems to be a "legitimate reason".

 

 

 

Steve

[Can-Con]

First off, I e-mailed my local shop last evening after seeing this and got a reply while at work today confirming it so..

Second, us here in Atlantic Canada don't appreciate all the hot, humid weather and hurricanes you guys sent up from Florida so knock it off.

You can put on more cloths in cold weather, You can only take off so much in hot. ?

[StevenGuthmiller]

19 minutes ago, Can-Con said:

You can only take off so much in hot. ?

Oooo, None of us want to see that!

 

 

 

Steve

[Dave Van]

1 hour ago, StevenGuthmiller said:

Of course.

There always seems to be a "legitimate reason".

Steve

Like banning Cow Flatulence, yes there is a reason.  It's low hanging fruit. While other countries are given a pass (by Canada + USA)  to build new coal powered electric plants, the fix to all the planets issues is to ban a few guys painting models.  No politics, just facts

Edited September 25, 2024 by Dave Van

[Fabrux]

3 hours ago, Bill Eh? said:

Unfortunately, we have received notice from Environment Canada that some of the paints include a chemical with too high of a concentration to import without a permit. 

See, this is what is the most frustrating part to me. I want to know the regulation and the chemicals involved, dangit! Plus what else is affected by this moratorium. Do better, Borgfeldt. ?

[Can-Con]

1 hour ago, StevenGuthmiller said:

Oooo, None of us want to see that!

 

 

 

Steve

Not even my wife, believe me.?

[Richard Bartrop]

7 hours ago, HomerS said:

I'd be on board sanctioning Canada for the polar blasts that come down in January/February.  Not a winter fan to begin with but then these sub zero temps can be unreal.  Bun warmers and steering wheel warmer are one thing I wont be able to give up on a car going forward.

 

The cold is good.  It keeps out the riff-raff.

Edited September 26, 2024 by Richard Bartrop

[mikemodeler]

I am sure Tamiya will decide what has to be done and whether or not it is in their interest to change product content to comply. My guess is that if Canada is implementing stricter environmental laws on spray paint, other countries will follow suit.

In the meantime, stores can still sell their paint, just can't re-order from the distributor, so start hoarding now like it's 2020 and toilet paper is in short supply!

[Claude Thibodeau]

Hi!

Went to local shops today and stocked on my favorite colors and primer. The head of paint dept. confirmed that they were advised about it yesterday. It would be an ingredient related to the propellant, he was told. Told me they would switch to AK, a well known Spanish company, that now offer a VERY complete line of spray paints, devoid of the "lethal" substance, with ease of application and gloss similar to Tamya's. 

I suppose Revell's line of spray paint is spared in this operation?

We shall see...

CT

[1972coronet]

I seem to recall that there were "65" reasons that Tamiya aerosols were temporarily unavailable in a certain state - a simple 'warning' label exhibiting those "65" reasons was the 'simple' "fix".

[Ace-Garageguy]

59 minutes ago, mikemodeler said:

...so start hoarding now like it's 2020 and toilet paper is in short supply!

I still have over 20,000 rolls...you know, just in case...so I'm good there. 

Maybe I can trade some for Tamiya paint.

Oh wait...I'm not in Canada. Never mind.

 

Edited September 26, 2024 by Ace-Garageguy

[Ace-Garageguy]

The good news is that, to date, I haven't had any cans of older Tamiya ooze binder and leak propellant like Testors.

So hoarded stashes should still be good in a decade or 4.  

[Richard Bartrop]

I have an airbrush, so this is not a big deal from the most part,  but some of their gloss paints are only available as a spray.  time to check out the other manufacturers, I guess.

We used to be able to get Humbrol paint, but after Brexit, they decide that they didn't need to put French on their tins.   Unfortunately, you still need that in Canada, so, no more Humbrol paint.