om617 Posted March 11, 2014 Posted March 11, 2014 (edited) I know many have opinions on how a sleeper should be,but here is mine. Dull original beetle on the outside. Stuffed with some italian 390hp 500nm lump of aluminium. Some dull non-metallic grey or green would be lovely,and try make the exhaust not show to much. Edited March 11, 2014 by om617
Foxer Posted March 11, 2014 Posted March 11, 2014 Wonderful idea ... much better than some low reving V8!
Zarana-X Posted March 11, 2014 Posted March 11, 2014 (edited) Interesting, but you're just doubling up on the stereotypes about things catching on fire.Which Ferrari is that engine/trans from? Edited March 11, 2014 by Zarana-X
58 Impala Posted March 11, 2014 Posted March 11, 2014 Tommy, that definitely fits the description of sleeper no matter where your from. When I was in high school (a long long time ago) there were a few people I knew who had plain-jane looking cars but had killer engines. They used to embarrass more than of few of the prancers- the all show and no go cars. It was fun to watch them smoke unsuspecting victims.
om617 Posted March 11, 2014 Author Posted March 11, 2014 1966 Volkswagen Beetle: Curb weight 1672 Lbs/758kg. 50hp 0-60mph 23 sec. Standing 402m 22 sec. 1984 Ferrari Testarossa: Curb weight 3320 Lbs/1506kg 390hp 0-60mph 5,2 sec. Standing 402m 13,5 sec. (Motor Trend) The numbers says fun right there. Mike: Yes the Testarossa sounds wonderful with some decent exhaust. But it`s not really a high rev engine. I think it gives full power at 6500rpm and full torque at 4000 or so. I enjoy v8`s but it`s everywhere so it makes it a little bit more excotic with an flat12. Jason: Engine comes from Tamiya Ferrari Testarossa,i belive it`s an 1984 model,first series of these cars. Yeah you better use an helmet if you where to drive an old Lamborghini Miura,this or when you get low on fuel at hight speed you pretty much had no steering haha. But it`s so beautiful i would not care if i cought fire in one. 58impala: That sounds really fun. Glad you like the idea,and the thing with sleepers is to not give away any clues what hiding under the metal. It`s better to be humble,you never know what could blow your doors off. Thanks for the comments everyone.
Ace-Garageguy Posted March 11, 2014 Posted March 11, 2014 Half the weight of the 'Rari and 8 times the power of the Bug. YES !!!
FASTBACK340 Posted March 11, 2014 Posted March 11, 2014 Half the weight of the 'Rari and 8 times the power of the Bug. YES !!! Bill beat me to that same observation. It would be rather rapid….. Great idea and a nice execution so far. Please, post more as it goes together. That is one sick ride I think we'd ALL like to see finished!
wisdonm Posted March 11, 2014 Posted March 11, 2014 Interesting, but wasted power with sleeper sized tires.
om617 Posted March 11, 2014 Author Posted March 11, 2014 (edited) Thanks guys. Don,you are right on the rear tires,and i have another set of these wheels wich will be "welded" for the rear,only inwards,and widen to close to double the size of the original. Did an attempt at detail and blackwash on the engine,noticed how JC Reckner did on his 914/6. Should used black or red wires but i dont feel like waiting 14days when i had these. Will try to take more pics when i get the frame primed. Looks kinda bad with lots of gluespots,sanding etc. Next up is exhaust,two radiators and two coils,wire the alternator and starter,or attempt at. Edited March 11, 2014 by om617
1930fordpickup Posted March 12, 2014 Posted March 12, 2014 Great idea , but what are you going to use for the counter weight up front.
afx Posted March 12, 2014 Posted March 12, 2014 Great conversion Tommy. Glad I could help showing how a wash brings out the detail.
om617 Posted March 12, 2014 Author Posted March 12, 2014 Great idea , but what are you going to use for the counter weight up front. Good question. I dont think it would be too bad since most of the weight is in front of the rear. Also the transmission you cant see (under the engine) is mostly in front of rear axle. Two radiators will be at front,also the fuel tank. The rear suspension is also reinforced by coil overs intended for the Testarossa weight. I`m not that good with math,but in theory it should not be worse than the original lump hanging far behind the rear wheels. This was just meant to be crazy and fun,not really for chasing laptimes on a track.
om617 Posted March 12, 2014 Author Posted March 12, 2014 Great conversion Tommy. Glad I could help showing how a wash brings out the detail. It is really inspiring to watch many of the threads on here. The Porsche is going to be amazing.
1972coronet Posted March 12, 2014 Posted March 12, 2014 Good question. I dont think it would be too bad since most of the weight is in front of the rear. Also the transmission you cant see (under the engine) is mostly in front of rear axle. Two radiators will be at front,also the fuel tank. The rear suspension is also reinforced by coil overs intended for the Testarossa weight. I`m not that good with math,but in theory it should not be worse than the original lump hanging far behind the rear wheels. Fill the spare tyre with concrete or water ! This is an old Stock / Super Stock trick from the 1960's . For that matter , even the transverse-mount muffler on 1963-1965 Coronet / Savoy / Belvedere 'Stockers were filled with concrete or Pb by the car's owners / operators . This is one sweet project , Tommy ! As many times as I have seen that Tamiya 1966 Volkswagen , and have perused its contents , I have not yet dedicated my-self to purchasing one . You , my friend , have changed my mind ! Looks like I will be adding this to my "must have" list . Keep up the excellent work !
om617 Posted March 13, 2014 Author Posted March 13, 2014 Got some done last night. Made room for cooling in front of the car. Having the radiator inside the car would make an awful place to be,also no place for hot air to escape. Also got the engine electronics in front. Not sure if you can see,but the flat black thing that stick out is the air intake for the original flat12. I will try make this fit with where you grab to open the rear hatch. This so it does not give away any clues as in huge air intakes. Here is just an mock up of the firewall,interior door panels and will figure out something at the rear as well.
Belugawrx Posted March 13, 2014 Posted March 13, 2014 Looking very nice so far That engine is massive!!
oldnslow Posted March 13, 2014 Posted March 13, 2014 Man!, that's got to be more than just 390 HP! Looks like everything fits great, keep us updated.
1 bad55 stan Posted March 13, 2014 Posted March 13, 2014 Thats bad a.. beetle,very different i like it..
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