thatz4u Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 http://www.modelcarsmag.com/forums/topic/133383-1966-cadillac-heavenly-hearse-by-johan/ got this and 2 Johan Ambulances & a bunch of extra parts for them a few years ago at a Florida swapmeet, cost? ...... $45.00, the stuff is out there, you just have to keep looking... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Hall Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 I love Jo-Hans, these are the Jo-Hans I've collected over the last 10 years, mostly from eBay...most pretty reasonable prices. I've got another 75 or so in storage that I bought from before 2008, along w/ ones I built as a kid in the 80s. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thatz4u Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 5 hours ago, Rob Hall said: I love Jo-Hans, these are the Jo-Hans I've collected over the last 10 years, mostly from eBay...most pretty reasonable prices. I've got another 75 or so in storage that I bought from before 2008, along w/ ones I built as a kid in the 80s. nice collection Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Most Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 The only exception seems to be the promos. They were molded from acetate and warp pretty badly, and who wants a bent '56 DeSoto? The late 80's/early '90's X-El versions were molded from polystyrene and don't warp, so it's one of very few instances where the reissues fetch more than the originals. Other than maybe the '59 Rambler wagon reissue, most of the "newest" JoHan stuff is pushing 25 or more years old, and by that time Johan wasn't pumping out thousands of kits at a time to begin with. Simple supply and demand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrObsessive Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 25 minutes ago, Chuck Most said: The only exception seems to be the promos. They were molded from acetate and warp pretty badly, and who wants a bent '56 DeSoto? The late 80's/early '90's X-El versions were molded from polystyrene and don't warp, so it's one of very few instances where the reissues fetch more than the originals. Other than maybe the '59 Rambler wagon reissue, most of the "newest" JoHan stuff is pushing 25 or more years old, and by that time Johan wasn't pumping out thousands of kits at a time to begin with. Simple supply and demand. Oh yeah! Check out the prices of X-EL '59 Dodge promos lately?? Yikes! I'm glad I got a couple of the kits when I did.........those can hit you hard in the wallet too nowadays! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 1 hour ago, Chuck Most said: The only exception seems to be the promos. They were molded from acetate and warp pretty badly, and who wants a bent '56 DeSoto? The late 80's/early '90's X-El versions were molded from polystyrene and don't warp, so it's one of very few instances where the reissues fetch more than the originals. Other than maybe the '59 Rambler wagon reissue, most of the "newest" JoHan stuff is pushing 25 or more years old, and by that time Johan wasn't pumping out thousands of kits at a time to begin with. Simple supply and demand. Some of the X-EL stuff is molded from ABS (same stuff the "dark gray" Plastruct is made of). It won't take styrene cement, and is harder to cut. But you can work with it. The acetate stuff is low-demand in most cases. I won't touch them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisBcritter Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 24 minutes ago, Mark said: Some of the X-EL stuff is molded from ABS (same stuff the "dark gray" Plastruct is made of). I thought my '56 Olds seemed different from the others - that must be why. The ABS ones seem to have a glossier finish than the styrene ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Most Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 2 hours ago, Mark said: Some of the X-EL stuff is molded from ABS (same stuff the "dark gray" Plastruct is made of). It won't take styrene cement, and is harder to cut. But you can work with it. The acetate stuff is low-demand in most cases. I won't touch them. Forgot about those- I have yet to run into one but I've heard of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SfanGoch Posted June 2, 2018 Share Posted June 2, 2018 I was checking out a kit on ebay a few minutes ago. The seller wrote the following: "Awesome vintage Jo-Han Kit. Appears to be all there, but Please refer to the photos for what’s included as I am not an expert. Actual item is pictured. Thanks!" Appears to be all there.....Not an expert.....Cut the poop already, man. The price he's asking for this kit, and other items he's selling, indicates otherwise. I contacted him and told him to inventory what's in the box against what is shown in the instruction sheet, which is prominently visible in the photos he posted. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motor City Posted June 2, 2018 Share Posted June 2, 2018 When the buyer discovers that parts are missing, the seller will claim it "appeared" all parts were there, but I stated I'm not an expert. Ebay will back up the seller - especially if they have sold a lot of items. Many sellers are too lazy to even clean the dirty and dusty models. I like when you can clearly see paint scrapes and the seller states that it should clean up nicely or that the defects should polish out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SfanGoch Posted June 2, 2018 Share Posted June 2, 2018 The seller replied and thanked me. He said that he works and doesn't have the time to check the kits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deano Posted June 2, 2018 Share Posted June 2, 2018 14 hours ago, SfanGoch said: I was checking out a kit on ebay a few minutes ago. The seller wrote the following: "Awesome vintage Jo-Han Kit. Appears to be all there, but Please refer to the photos for what’s included as I am not an expert. Actual item is pictured. Thanks!" Appears to be all there.....Not an expert.....Cut the poop already, man. The price he's asking for this kit, and other items he's selling, indicates otherwise. I contacted him and told him to inventory what's in the box against what is shown in the instruction sheet, which is prominently visible in the photos he posted. 28 minutes ago, Motor City said: When the buyer discovers that parts are missing, the seller will claim it "appeared" all parts were there, but I stated I'm not an expert. Ebay will back up the seller - especially if they have sold a lot of items. Many sellers are too lazy to even clean the dirty and dusty models. I like when you can clearly see paint scrapes and the seller states that it should clean up nicely or that the defects should polish out. 16 minutes ago, SfanGoch said: The seller replied and thanked me. He said that he works and doesn't have the time to check the kits. I would think that with 1000+ positive feedback and no negatives(if it's who I think it is), he's probably not scamming people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucky Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 Another one I was bidding on sold for $76.00. 1966 Rambler American Convertible. Flat box, still sealed. Probably a good price, but I let it go to someone else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevenGuthmiller Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 9 hours ago, Bucky said: Another one I was bidding on sold for $76.00. 1966 Rambler American Convertible. Flat box, still sealed. Probably a good price, but I let it go to someone else. Yes, another very good price. Think of it this way. Most new kits sell in the vicinity of $30.00. I will gladly trade you a pair of Linberg/AMT '64 Dodge kits for an unopened Johan "flat box" kit of any kind! A total no brainer IMO. Steve 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straightliner59 Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 On 5/19/2018 at 6:18 PM, Snake45 said: Yah, I have a friend looking for one. Told him I'd check ePay for him--talk about sticker shock! I ended up buying promos of an AMX, and a Maverick. I can go any direction with those. They were considerably less expensive than kits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#1 model citizen Posted September 4, 2021 Share Posted September 4, 2021 (edited) On 5/21/2018 at 1:49 AM, ChrisBcritter said: I admit to speculating on these kits 35-40 years ago when the rumor surfaced that the plant or their warehouse had burned down and they were out of business; eventually I sold about a dozen USA Oldies kits for a nice profit and kept a few to build. Hope someday someone will repop the correct interiors for the '62 Chrysler, Dodge and Plymouth in resin. I was unaware that the interiors were incorrect for these kits (although someone in this thread mentioned the Chrysler had a’ ‘65 interior). I did know the dashboards were incorrect for the Dodge and Plymouth. However I attended a NNL event a few weeks ago and discovered that Parts by Parks has the correct dashboards in resin! I bought 2 each to add to the kits I have. It would appear that I need to trade a Dodge ht for a Plymouth ht to balance out my collection unless I can find 1 or 2 at a reasonable price Edited September 4, 2021 by #1 model citizen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisBcritter Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 Don't throw away the Dodge and Plymouth interiors from the USA Oldies '62s - they're actually promo interiors for the '64 Dodge and Plymouth, which have the correct bench seats and door panels. Jo-Han released the Fury kit with a Sport Fury interior, and the Polara kit with a Polara 500 interior, both of which are incorrect, so the USA Oldies issues can help fix that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#1 model citizen Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 31 minutes ago, ChrisBcritter said: Don't throw away the Dodge and Plymouth interiors from the USA Oldies '62s - they're actually promo interiors for the '64 Dodge and Plymouth, which have the correct bench seats and door panels. Jo-Han released the Fury kit with a Sport Fury interior, and the Polara kit with a Polara 500 interior, both of which are incorrect, so the USA Oldies issues can help fix that. So I still need ’62 interior tubs to have correct interiors? Can they be easily modified to be correct? If I ever get around to building them and I don’t have or can’t find the correct tubs I will have to work with what I have… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisBcritter Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 Yes; sometimes you can find junker original issue kits with good interiors. This is the correct '62 Dodge interior: And '62 Plymouth: Happy hunting! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SfanGoch Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 (edited) Those tubs are correct only if they're used in '62 convertibles. If you have the hardtops, SOL. Edited September 5, 2021 by SfanGoch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#1 model citizen Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 9 minutes ago, ChrisBcritter said: Yes; sometimes you can find junker original issue kits with good interiors. This is the correct '62 Dodge interior: And '62 Plymouth: Happy hunting! Thanks! The pics will greatly aide in the search. I think I need a boot the ‘62 Plymouth convertible too. Had the kit out a few days ago and now that piece is missing. I’m afraid it may have accidentally fallen into a pile of papers that went to the recycle bin ☹️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#1 model citizen Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 5 minutes ago, SfanGoch said: Those tubs are correct only if they're used in '62 convertibles. If you have the hardtops, SOL. Well that’s good to know! I have 2 Plymouths and 1 Dodge convertible. (and 2 Dodge hts) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SfanGoch Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 Unless you feel like performing surgery to make them correct for a hardtop; besides yourself, who's going to know or care, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Geiger Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 22 minutes ago, SfanGoch said: Unless you feel like performing surgery to make them correct for a hardtop; besides yourself, who's going to know or care, right? When I win the hundred million dollar lottery, me thinks I will tool up and release absolutely correct interiors for all the old Johans… Why? Just so I can chuckle when someone complains on the board that the window crank is a fifth of a millimeter off! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake45 Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 55 minutes ago, SfanGoch said: Those tubs are correct only if they're used in '62 convertibles. If you have the hardtops, SOL. I believe quite a few of the old annual AMT hardtop kits have convertible interiors. Never heard anyone complain about it back in the day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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