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Saw those on their stand at Telford last November Helmut. They are indeed very good and accurate for the Revell E type. I think they also do them in 1/43rd scale for the new Airfix kit, and possibly in 1/32nd scale too.

I am a regular, quite right Pete. But I don't look in every area each time I read the forum, but tend to zone in on things that catch my eye on the day. Probably how I either missed or forgot the Revell Chrome discussion going on.

Your Rolls is really taking shape Louis. Noticed in an earlier post you are in Malta. I guess that you.might belong to the Malta IPMS? They have some excellent model makers on board. I can remember them coming to SMW at Telford a few years ago before covid and taking home a lot of trophies. I have visited Malta quite a lot as some fzmily friends had a house on Gozo up to recently. I can remember an exhibition of models in the Arcadia Shopping Centre in Victoria once when I visited and remember a really lovely Pocher Bugatti in the display.

It's 3D Designing not Scratch Building as such as I see it. Proficient 3D Designing requires a lot of skill, and that is of course a no brainer, and having an engineering background myself I can really appreciate that. Designing any engineered parts accurately to fit together properly is where the skill lies, even back in the days of the drawing board it was no different. However, 3D printing has its limitations. When I scratch build any of my models I use a multitude of different materials in the same fashion as the late Gerald Wingrove. One of my scratch built models was of the Dubonnet Hispano Suiza that was planked in Pearwood Veneers marked out and holes drilled individually to fit thousands of rivets from 0.5mm brass wire. Try doing that on a 3D printer. How can John say that detailing and finishing is scratch building after going beyond the basic assembly of kits that are basically a number of pre made parts to assemble, detail and paint? That is not scratch building at all. It is kit assembly and finishing.

And I always thought that Americans generally favoured 1/25th over 1/24th Andrew! Lol.

Very nice model Pico. What scale did you make it in?

Because I am a normal human being with just as many faults and shortcomings as anyone else Pete. But I will make sure that I look at that Revell Chrome thread link you placed having pointed it out to me. So thanks for putting it up on here.

Both Airfix kits have been released again after all these years. I can remember the Bugle Buggy being sold by VW main dealers way back when in the 70's I think. Royal Berkshire Motors in Reading UK had the Bugle Buggy kit in their showroom with a metalflake green finished body and all the chrome plated goodies for it when that kit car was released. There was a bit of a fad for beach buggies at the time, but the enthusiasm for them dropped as time went on.

Anyone tried Revell's new aerosol chrome?

It's getting close to the world's largest scale model show the IPMS UK Scalemodelworld 2023 show at Telford UK in November. Full details on the IPMS UK website.

Not sure if a stock DB5 will ever be on the agenda due to the tooling costs. Matt Bacon's suggestions will probably be the best way to go for a standard DB5.

Some mentions of the 'old tool' Revell E Type have been made. I can remember building one many years ago and it did have some fit issues. Also, I seem to remember it being 1/25th scale as it was a Revell USA kit. The new one is 1/24th scale and very much better. My only criticism is that the wheels are a bit too wide and do not quite look right. Maybe someone produces the correct width wheels and tyres as 3D printed items?

The Brooklands Outer circuit speed record holder is an aircraft engined car, the polished aluminium bodied Napier Railton. The car was powered by a Napier Lion W12 engine. The car can currently be seen at the Brooklands Transport Museum. A photo of my scratch built model is in the 'Let's see some scratch built things' thread for anyone to see what the car looks like. Also plenty of pictures of the real car available to see on line.

After all this you might also like to use Nick Edwards' catch phrase 'May Contain Airfix!' lol.

Thanks for coming back with the techniques explanation David. Made a really interesting read.

Very effective weathering done on this model. Any chance of describing the techniques used?

Fascinating developments. modelling This is going into the realms of super modelling. By far more than I would attempt for a static model.

Agreed Frank, new technology makes this possible and you have described what the difference is between designing (or scratch drawing as you describe it) something in 3D to make it as opposed to actually scratch building something by more conventiona! methods. It must be remembered that before 3D printing, scratch built masters would have been made for repeat parts to be cast. Basically the discussion has been just about terminology used as to whether 3D printing is scratch building or not. It has not been about whether we should embrace the new technology of not. It is here and a good thing as far as I see it.

Pierre, I think that Francois is already looking at marketing some of his upgrade parts. Look at the buying and selling section over on Britmodeller. Also, Nick Edwards is developing a number of Bentley kit upgrades. Look up his Unobtainium website. He does a nice set of replacement wire wheels for the Bentley.

Ironically the shelves that are full of pre built models are predominately car models rather than all the other genres combined. The market there is to satisfy the car enthusiast who in the main would like a reasonably priced replica of a car they might desire but could never afford, hence the general car model market. One step up is the more serious collector willing to spend loads of money for high quality models like CMC, Autoart, at the lower end up to top end models by Amalgam and Misco. Then of course the extremely wealthy collector of models by artisans like Gerald Wingrove, Conte, Brianza and Olive Sans to name a few. However, anyone can buy a built up model and plonk it on a shelf to admire it, but that is nowhere like the satisfaction derived from either building a model from a kit or scratch building one.

What an improvement on all those kit parts by being replaced. Cannot see Airfix ever completely re tooling that elderly kit, so you and Nick have a nice little niche market for making replacement upgraded parts for the modeller who want to improve it.

If it ever gets to the point where no builder is required, then that will be the point where our hobby will be dead and buried as far as buying commercial kits are concerned. Not sure if it will ever happen though. Creativity will never be stifled. Many folk will always want to make things

My problem has been with my replies to posts. Sometimes, actually quite often they just will not save . Absolutely infuriating when I have spent quite a bit of time writing them.

Lots of different viewpoints made. This has been a lively discussion and remained civil. I guess that there is not much that is different that one can add to this thread that I now feel has possibly run its course. Lively respectful debate is what makes life interesting. Although many of us will have to agree to differ on this subject it is pleasing that so many have taken the time to respond. All the input is valuable, so thanks for the participation guys.

Thanks for the numerous replies. There have been many differing viewpoints put across on this thread. 3d printing has revolutionised model building across many genres like figures, aircraft etc. Justifying the expense at home level is another matter unless looking to make for others and charge for a service. So I will be sticking to hacking away at the plastics, metals and wood the conventional way for the foreseeable future.