Moebius future kit prototypes from November, 2017 NNL Motor City...

[mangodart]

Thanks Bill, I also got the convertible one so I will modify it as you did, the day I'll touch it !!!!  

[echoxrayniner]

Awh maaannn... genuinely had some hope set on the '68 Cougar, buuummmmer. Shouldve curbed that enthusiasm :c

[tim boyd]

Well, that didn't take long! 

A few comments... yes the Nova SS Hardtop is a '64, and the post sedan is a '65.  Both have V8's under the hood (the Trumpeter kit was a six).  I've seen the CAD work on both, and they appear very well executed.  The Gasser is a full fledged effort, not a mild takeoff on a showroom stock car.  There is a third version of the kit tool planned, and possibly others later..  No firm production date yet that I know of.  

Round 2 will also be there, but not Revell.  Round 2 will definitely check out the Charger III idea - if the tooling exists in usable original kit form they would consider it for a future kit release.   

Also want to reiterate that several other guesses in this thread about what might be revealed today .... err...last night, are under active consideration by a model kit company.  So keep those ideas coming, including those that can be configured in multiple kit releases (just as what you've seen today from Moebius.)  

We're having the early stages of ice storm where I live in SE Michigan this morning, so all you guys heading to the show, PLEASE DRIVE CAREFULLY ...  TIM 

Edited November 12, 2017 by tim boyd

[Classicgas]

Is the Nova and the Ford pickup the big news?

[niteowl7710]

Is the Nova and the Ford pickup the big news?

I wouldn't even consider the P/U to be news, that's been well known since NNL East back in April - albeit this being the first time development has been shown publicly.

[niteowl7710]

 

Oh BTW while everyone was in a tizzy trying to guess which Revell announcement doesn't exist, Moebius snuck the Catalina out.

I think my favorite parts are there are clearly turn signals and a Pontiac script that exist on the box art "drawing" that clearly don't exist on the model (at least not that built test shot on the box - but there might be turn signal indentations I guess if you stare at it long enough) and check out that wicked mold line on the bumper - whoooo people on the Space Station want that sanded off...love the fact the ill-fitting hood was directly copied onto the box art "drawing" of the car too...

Edited November 12, 2017 by niteowl7710

[W-409]

Yeah Niko, the sedan is a '65. I don't know if it'll be gasser only, or if it can later be built stock. Still, not a difficult conversion to make it a '62-----just some time and patience.

Yep, luckily it can be done. The '62 grill is probably the hardest part, as the only source that I know of is the old AMT Annual Kit or then MCW Resin, but I'm pretty sure the MCW grill is just a copy of that AMT piece...Or at least it looks like it's very close. Anyway, no matter what I'm super excited on both of these. And I can't wait to see what all the master modelers like you do with this kit...

 

Sorry but how about the Trumpeter kit we had years ago ?

Nothing wrong with the Trumpeter kit, except that it's getting a bit hard to find at least here in Finland. I haven't had time to start building any of them yet, but I have several of them waiting. But there can never be too many kits of 1st Gen Chevy IIs....

[Snake45]

I'd be willing to bet US cash dollars that whatever the Mystery Goodie is, it'll be something I have no or virtually no interest in. 

But I'm willing to be pleasantly surprised and would love to be proven wrong. 

Okay, I'm pleasantly surprised and happy to be wrong. I'll be buying a couple of those Novas. 

That hardtop looks suspiciously like the 1/24 diecast I recently got, especially as regards the slightly saggy look of the upper side window line. But I guess we'll be seeing. 

I don't consider myself a particular '66 Ford truck fan, but my beloved Grandfather drove a red one from 1966 until his passing in 1972, whereupon it went to my Dad who drove it for a few more years, so I might have to pick up at least one of those, too. 

[Dave Van]

I had a little input on the Nova and long time ago....glad to see it will come to kit form at last!!! 

Now.....if the other car I had some input on will happen.........THEN I'll really be happy.

Edited November 12, 2017 by Dave Van

[ChrisBcritter]

And there we have it; the longbed pickup will be where I'll finally put that Open Road camper. As for the Nova, looking forward to seeing the finished product but I do wish the gasser was a '62-'63, since the Rat Packer was a '65 (and I've put a bunch of work into one taking it back to stock). As for other future versions: wagon, wagon, wagon!

[Bill J]

Hey, thanks Moebius for the 61 Catalina, love the old Pontiac style. No interest in an UGLY 66 Ferd P/U or a Nova, sorry about that but that's the way it is.

[Matt T.]

 

Oh BTW while everyone was in a tizzy trying to guess which Revell announcement doesn't exist, Moebius snuck the Catalina out.

I think my favorite parts are there are clearly turn signals and a Pontiac script that exist on the box art "drawing" that clearly don't exist on the model (at least not that built test shot on the box - but there might be turn signal indentations I guess if you stare at it long enough) and check out that wicked mold line on the bumper - whoooo people on the Space Station want that sanded off...love the fact the ill-fitting hood was directly copied onto the box art "drawing" of the car too...

The grille script emblem should be on the kit part in the box. It’s on the Grand National release. 

Edited November 12, 2017 by Matt T.
Clarity

[Zoom Zoom]

 

Oh BTW while everyone was in a tizzy trying to guess which Revell announcement doesn't exist, Moebius snuck the Catalina out.

I think my favorite parts are there are clearly turn signals and a Pontiac script that exist on the box art "drawing" that clearly don't exist on the model (at least not that built test shot on the box - but there might be turn signal indentations I guess if you stare at it long enough) and check out that wicked mold line on the bumper - whoooo people on the Space Station want that sanded off...love the fact the ill-fitting hood was directly copied onto the box art "drawing" of the car too...

Moebius tends to use built test shots for boxart; I have seen inside the box of the '61 Joe Weatherly stock car; the turn signals are engraved as well as the Pontiac script on the grille...those revised parts likely weren't available when the boxart model was constructed. Can't comment if they'd also fixed the issues that cause the entire bumper/grille unit to fit so poorly to the radiator cowl, causing the poor hood fit. If the bumper/grille don't fit, the hood won't fit. Also unknown is if any effort was put into making the front/rear glass fit better into the body. Aside from those issues, I really enjoyed building my Ventura and it looks pretty good. Pity that the boxart tends to amplify some build flaws...boxart artist probably isn't a model builder, maybe not even a car person, to "miss" on that detail.

[Zoom Zoom]

That hardtop looks suspiciously like the 1/24 diecast I recently got, especially as regards the slightly saggy look of the upper side window line. But I guess we'll be seeing. 

That "saggy" looking trim is epidemic on all early Nova models. There's supposed to be some subtle curvature on the drip rail, but so far it's been rendered dead flat by all of them...AMT, Trumpeter, diecast, now Moebius. The Trumpeter and Moebius tend to amplify it to the point it looks concave. It's a slight, subtle detail that I really hope Moebius fixes by the time it's tooled. There is a lot of refinement that can/should occur between these initial prototypes and actual tooling.

[gtx6970]

A modeler would have to not have a pulse to not find the '18 Corvette ZR1 exciting..it would be great as a full detail kit..

I guess I'm not a modeler , or even breathing. The new vette is neat to look at , but I have ZERO interest to build a kit of one. To be honest ,,,,There's  nothing produced for 2018 that I would consider to build a 1/125th scale replica of ,,,unless someone was paying me to do so .

 

As for the 64-65 Nova, ,,,,meh.  I was actually hoping for either the 68 Coronet or 67-68 Cougar

I surely wish them luck  with the Nova and they sell millions of copies. But none will be to me .  The Ford F150,,,,eh , Maybe

 

 

Edited November 12, 2017 by gtx6970

[iBorg]

Guess it's time to start dumping my Rat Packers.

[mikemodeler]

The Nova is nice to see and definitely an improvement over the Trumpeter kit from years ago, but I wouldn't expect to see it for a year. The pickup was already announced and while seeing that it will have multiple beds and possibly different drivetrains, I suspect it will be at least 9-12 months before we see it. There are some revisions needed to be done to each one and it's great that they showed us 3D prints, but there is a difference between test shots in styrene and a 3D print!

I will probably grab one of each, but hope there are some other "new" kits on the horizon that generate more excitement for me than these two.

[Ace-Garageguy]

...There is a lot of refinement that can/should occur between these initial prototypes and actual tooling.

X2.

That said, it's very wise of Moebius to do hi-def 3D models prior to cutting tools. EVERY dimension and line issue can be COMPLETELY resolved prior to committing the big tooling bucks. It is the old adage of "measure twice (or as many times as it takes to get it right), cut once" taken to its logical conclusion using modern technology.

And THAT said, I like both the choices. The little Novas are very popular in the real world in a variety of flavors from straight stock to full-blown nostalgia gassers. I've wanted to do a Nova gasser for some time myself, but the availability of foundation material hasn't been the best. 

That particular body style Ford truck is coming on strong in reality too. There are several in my area, mostly running the slightly ratty faux "shop truck" look. As I already have the old unibody version, the separate bed versions and the step-side in particular will be most welcome.

But please...get these things looking right. It's far easier for a modeler to correct slight fit and flash issues (if there has to be a trade-off made for some reason) than it is to correct poorly or inaccurately rendered proportions and lines.

 

 

[Mike Chernecki]

Great news! I hope they eventually back date the Nova to 1962 so I can do one of my convertible. Too many things to change to back date the '64 to '62, grille, exterior trim, interior, gauge cluster. Hopefully we will eventually see both a convertible and wagon.

[RAT-T]

HOPE THEY DO A '64 SEDAN VERSION LATER, NOT REALLY A FAN OF THE '65

[W-409]

I agree that a '62-'64 would have been the best choice for that Gasser version, but I'm not complaining with the '65 either. Luckily that new '65 should be fairly easy to modify back to stock, at least a lot easier than the Rat Packer!

But now since we already have all Novas from '63 to '65 as modern good quality kits, I'm just hoping they would do a '62 version too. At least I'd buy several of them just for the '62 specific parts that could be used in kitbashing with other kits to create some different body style '62 Chevy II or Novas. And definitely a Yes for the Wagon! I have one AMT "Boss Nova" that will be converted back to more stock appearance, but that's pretty much work in there... It would be great to have a new tool Wagon kit...How about Don Nicholson's '62 B/FX Wagon?

 

Edited November 12, 2017 by W-409

[Ace-Garageguy]

...love the fact the ill-fitting hood was directly copied onto the box art "drawing" of the car too...

Just seriously hard to believe THAT got past ANYONE. It's the absolute FIRST thing that jumped out at me, and it simply defies any rational explanation.

While I really like the old GM-brochure style of illustration, an artist working in those days would have been shot for presenting a drawing that made the car look like it just came out of a third-rate body shop.

[Ace-Garageguy]

...How about Don Nicholson's '62 B/FX Wagon?

You have my vote...especially since there's such a shortage of wagon ANYTHING in styrene.  

Edited November 12, 2017 by Ace-Garageguy

[stavanzer]

Hey!  Maybe now the price of Rat Packer kits will drop some, and I can afford to get one.

[Mike Chernecki]

How about DougThorley's 'Chevy 2 Much' AFX Nova?