"My Year In Review" Threads

[Snake45]

21 minutes ago, highway said:

Really!?!?!?!? 

I don't see what getting the panties in a bunch here, because unless I'm missing something, there are only 2 "My Year in Review" threads currently on the front pages of all 3 (including the pickup under glass and big rig under glass sections in the truck area) of the under glass sections of this forum, and both are in the car section! I guess that must just be two too many for some to handle! 

Come back in a week or two, and the whole first page of Under Glass will be "I Love Me" threads. Happens every year. 

[StevenGuthmiller]

22 minutes ago, Snake45 said:

 "I Love Me" threads.

Isn't that a little harsh Richard?

Doesn't that make every post in the Under Glass section an "I love me" thread?

They're all just posts of models that people have finished.

I kind of thought that was why we were here.

Not just to talk about something that we may finish a decade from now.

I want to see every build that anybody chooses to post.

That's why I joined this site.

To see other peoples work & to improve mine.

 

Steve

Edited December 16, 2017 by StevenGuthmiller

[SfanGoch]

I like to check out pics of finished models (that's for you, Harry  ) in the "Under Glass" section. Since there is usually only a single model being showcased in any particular thread, there is NO FRIGGIN' NEED to repeatedly repost the photos ad nauseam just to say "Nice job". We get it. We're all looking at the same thing. We know what you're referring to. Nobody switched pictures. Stop it. The Redundant Content Squad is keeping tabs  on you. They're just itching to drag you downtown.

While you're at it, getdahelloffamystoop!

[Ace-Garageguy]

3 minutes ago, SfanGoch said:

 The Redundant Content Squad is keeping tabs  on you. They're just itching to drag you downtown.

How's 'bout getting up a joint op with the Needlessly Quoting an Entire Post Complete with 20 Photos Squad?

[SfanGoch]

They're on the job, Chief!

[Lovefordgalaxie]

1 hour ago, StevenGuthmiller said:

Isn't that a little harsh Richard?

Doesn't that make every post in the Under Glass section an "I love me" thread?

They're all just posts of models that people have finished.

I kind of thought that was why we were here.

Not just to talk about something that we may finish a decade from now.

I want to see every build that anybody chooses to post.

That's why I joined this site.

To see other peoples work & to improve mine.

 

Steve

X2

[TarheelRick]

Not really a great supporter of the Year in Review, but if others want to do it, then so be it.  However, my only suggestion would be to limit it to no more than a couple of outside views, an interior view, and an underhood view.  I am not impressed with an overabundance of different (meaning every 15 degrees of the body) views.

[StevenGuthmiller]

25 minutes ago, TarheelRick said:

Not really a great supporter of the Year in Review, but if others want to do it, then so be it.  However, my only suggestion would be to limit it to no more than a couple of outside views, an interior view, and an underhood view.  I am not impressed with an overabundance of different (meaning every 15 degrees of the body) views.

As a general rule, most guys will limit their pics to just one view of each model for purposes such as this.

At least they should.

 

Steve

[Snake45]

3 hours ago, StevenGuthmiller said:

Isn't that a little harsh Richard?

Steve

It might have been. It's a common term over in Model Airplane World (often used in jest against one's self) but I just realize I've never seen it here, so it might have seemed "harsh" to anyone who's never heard it before. To those so offended, I apologize. 

Edited December 16, 2017 by Snake45

[bobthehobbyguy]

I personally enjoy seeing the year in review threads. 

We definitely do not need a separate category for them. One thing that would help would be if the tag feature would get utilized it would help pulling up specific content.

[Richard Bartrop]

I suppose you could just not click on the threads you aren't interested in.  On second thought, that's just crazy talk.

[peekay]

A. I personally like the "My Year in Review" posts for various reasons. That new models get pushed to page 2 or 3 isn't so tragic: it's not so difficult to go there, make a comment and put it on page 1 again.

B. The word "build" is more specific than "model", quicker and easier than "built model car" and it is perfectly clear to everyone what is meant. There are MANY words that have developed a double life as verb and noun (speed, race etc). Languages will continue to evolve, like it or not.

C. But I'm totally with you on quoting 10 photos just to add a few words. I guess some people don't know how to quote a portion of a post.

[espo]

20 hours ago, Bernard Kron said:

I agree that the problem of Year In Review threads upstaging newly completed end-of-year projects is a meaningful one. It's a real challenge during the 4 weeks on either side of the New Year not losing them to the Dreaded Second Page. Perhaps a dedicated single thread might work, although it lacks the personal focus that making your own thread provides.

In any case I look forward to these summaries each year for several reasons. First off they inevitably feature wonderful models that I somehow missed, either by happenstance or out of shear prejudice, allowing the title of the original post to deceive me. And, in fact, there are some members who only post their completed models as a Year In Review. So, as a matter of choice, I look at every one that's posted, knowing that I will find some lost treasures if I do. Secondly, among the posts some members choose to write something about there overall impression of their Year At The Bench. I find that interesting and inspiring. For me it's an opportunity to experience a broader perspective on the community we share over our common interest here on the MCM Board. I think this is fitting during the Holiday Season.

In the other direction, the Year In Review ritual creates an opportunity for me to look back at my own year and summarize my own successes and failures, sharing this with those modeling friends on the board both familiar to me and who I might not have been aware of. I've noticed over the years, much as I comment on Year In Review posts by modelers whose work I have not acknowledged during the past year, there are quite a few comments by members who have otherwise not posted on my projects.

his statement pretty much sums up my feelings only expresses to better that I'm able to. My feeling is that their should be an entirely separate section for the Year End posts. This way if someone doesn't want to get bogged down with all of the Year End photos they can just go past it. If someone wants to view every ones posts they can do that.   If this were to happen maybe they could even be divided by year also so that it would be easier to find some ones build if you're looking for a reference or an idea for what ever you're doing.

[Xingu]

10 minutes ago, espo said:

My feeling is that their should be an entirely separate section for the Year End posts. This way if someone doesn't want to get bogged down with all of the Year End photos they can just go past it. If someone wants to view every ones posts they can do that. 

The same can be achieved by clicking or not clicking on a thread that has "My Year In Review" in the title.

Folks already do not scroll down far enough to see all the sections the site has (I know this because of all the stuff that gets posted in "General" that clearly goes in other sections we already have setup). Imagine how much scrolling would be needed if we added every section that gets recommended.

This is a minor problem inconvenience that happens for about 3-4 weeks a year, it does not justify any special treatment.

[Bernard Kron]

1 hour ago, espo said:

... My feeling is that their should be an entirely separate section for the Year End posts. This way if someone doesn't want to get bogged down with all of the Year End photos they can just go past it....

 

1 hour ago, Xingu said:

The same can be achieved by clicking or not clicking on a thread that has "My Year In Review" in the title.

Folks already do not scroll down far enough to see all the sections the site has (I know this because of all the stuff that gets posted in "General" that clearly goes in other sections we already have setup). Imagine how much scrolling would be needed if we added every section that gets recommended.

This is a minor problem inconvenience that happens for about 3-4 weeks a year, it does not justify any special treatment.

The proliferation of categories assumes that people visit the forum and only view specific categories, for example NASCAR or Drag Racing or Pickups, Vans, SUVS, Light Commercial. Or, even worse, they specifically ignore these categories. Why "even worse"? Because it creates the possibility they'll miss something that would have interested them. For example I'm into Hot Rods, Customs, etc. But if there's one area I'm actively uninterested in, it's SUVS and Light Commercial. So, if I "shop" the MCM Forum by category I'll rarely if ever see that '29 Ford RPU lost in the Pickups, Vans, SUVS, Light Commercial category. Fortunately I don't depend on categories. Instead I simply ask for all posts since my last visit, read or unread, regardless of category. I then scan the title and read what attracts me.

But that's where the problem that the OP raised comes in. During "My Year In Review" time, fresh posts of new completions or interesting w.i.p.s or frankly anything else, get pushed down onto the Dreaded Second Page. Normally that's just the nature of things, but "My Year In Review" content is by its very nature redundant, and that's what the OP is objecting to. It's tempting to think that there's nothing "new" in these threads. But that's where I tried to point out that the summary in itself is "new", interesting and useful. But the "problem" or "inconvenience" is real, at least if your not interested in these Reviews. It creates a volume of traffic unique to that time of year that competes with everything else.

So I agree with Xingu, this issue doesn't merit any special treatment. At its worst it's about as bad as having to listen to the same Christmas songs every year during holiday time, a pleasure for some, an annoyance for others, and something that will pass with the seasons.

Note: Via personal messages the late Harry P and I used to debate the proliferation of categories. While he and I both agreed that creating too many categories was damaging, I was much more of a purist than him. My feeling was that there should be little or no categories at all. Harry felt that every once in a while a new category needed to be created to respond to member's needs. But we both agreed that over on the SA board they had let things run away from them and their Forums were gravely harmed by an excessive number of categories. I think the ability to screen posts according to parameters you can set and save, a feature that was augmented on the MCM board with the recent upgrade, is one of the main reasons I find the MCM forums so useful. But Harry was right, the member's wishes need to be respected and responded to, but with moderation and an eye to the larger issues that must be taken into account.

Edited December 17, 2017 by Bernard Kron

[bobthehobbyguy]

I think any new categories need to address year round problems and not a seasonal issue like the years in review.

There actually is a solution that already exists. The gallery feature has been fixed. Year. End reviews could be placed there. You can comment on the photos. The gallery shows up in the activity list and there may even be a way to create a filter for them.

However as with the dreaded second page members need to be aware of the feature and not have blinders on. We need to utilize the features that exist before unnecessary changes are made!

[StevenGuthmiller]

I think that this whole issue is much ado about nothing.

Just like anything else, if you don't want to look at these threads, don't.

Every time I look at the Under Glass section, there are tons of exotics, sports cars, racing subjects, etc, that i have no interest in.

These subjects might also be relegating the posts that I am interested in, to the second page as well.

Does that give me the right to gripe that those posts should be moved to a different or new category because I don't read them?

As long as the post meets the criteria of the category that it's in, there's nothing to complain about, just move past them.

Granted, we may have to wade through some posts that we don't care to look at to get to the ones we do, but don't we have to do that every day anyway?

And besides, I see a lot of builds in the "year in review" posts every year that I might have missed for whatever reason.

I personally enjoy them & will generally look at every one.

 

Steve

Edited December 17, 2017 by StevenGuthmiller

[Greg Pugh]

I'm so limited with time from about April to October that I'm lucky if I log on 4-5 times during that time period. However, I probably get on 3-4 times a week in the winter. I end up missing a lot of posts throughout the year so I really enjoy the year in review posts. It gives me a chance to not only see a bunch of stuff I missed, but it's nice to see what one person can get done in one year. I'm astounded by the talent in this group!

[martinfan5]

Tanks ( on purpose) for the reminder Snake, I need to get started on my year end review of the model I built this year video.

[Daddyfink]

On 12/16/2017 at 12:36 PM, Ace-Garageguy said:

How's 'bout getting up a joint op with the Needlessly Quoting an Entire Post Complete with 20 Photos Squad?

They need to be on patrol in every thread! Especially in the "What Did You Get Today?" thread!!! I am tired of seeing the same busted up swap meet finds over and over!  Trust me, once is enough! Don't be lazy and just edit their post when you quote and eliminate the pics at least!! 

[Lunajammer]

On 12/17/2017 at 3:53 PM, StevenGuthmiller said:

Just like anything else, if you don't want to look at these threads, don't.

So I don't. Then I miss things. Then it pops up in a "year in review" thread and I get a chance to see a lot of gems I didn't catch the first time around and see a bunch more builds I hadn't really associated with Member-X before.

Edited December 18, 2017 by Lunajammer

[SfanGoch]

6 hours ago, Daddyfink said:

 Don't be lazy and just edit their post when you quote and eliminate the pics at least!! 

Never mind.  

Edited December 18, 2017 by SfanGoch

[martinfan5]

9 hours ago, Daddyfink said:

They need to be on patrol in every thread! Especially in the "What Did You Get Today?" thread!!! I am tired of seeing the same busted up swap meet finds over and over!  Trust me, once is enough! Don't be lazy and just edit their post when you quote and eliminate the pics at least!! 

This yo

[Junkman]

Maybe everyone should stop posting anything at all?
This will ensure that nobody is offended.
 

[Jantrix]

The only reason I agree this year is because for the first time in 15 years, I didn't complete any this year. So pure jealousy on my part.