HomerS Posted November 29, 2018 Posted November 29, 2018 I like it....at least in the pic. I didn't think I would like the four door version of the Jeep until I saw one when they came out (and even worse rented one for a weekend from Enterprise).
Joe Handley Posted November 29, 2018 Posted November 29, 2018 I do like how they look, but they, like the JK and now JL Wranglers, are just too huge for my liking. As an example, here's the promo pic of one towing a Grand Wagoneer, which tends to be considered "Full Sized" and is often considered a FSJ. I do wonder how long before I see one being driven by a soccer mom with a matching purse like I saw about 10 years ago at a Subway near my former employer. A soccer mom parked her Rescue Green 4dr JK Rubi next to my XJ and when she was in line I noticed her purse was almost the exact same shade of metallic green
89AKurt Posted November 29, 2018 Posted November 29, 2018 Gawd, that looks HUGE! I've rented Jeeps in Ouray CO, and Moab Utah. I admired their capability. But they were 2 doors, which is important for rugged rock crawling. And good thing I rented in Moab, it must have broken a tie rod because it shimmied bad after doing Moab Rim. There is also a new used Jeep dealer in town, with a nice selection of modified Jeeps, glad I can't afford them. LOL
mikemodeler Posted November 29, 2018 Posted November 29, 2018 This will end up being another $50,000+ pickup truck that has more luxury amenities than real usefulness. Target buyers will be families wanting something different to pull their small camper or the occasional Home Depot run to pick up some plants and 5 bags of mulch. I would rather track down an old Scrambler and refurbish it for a lot less and have something more to what it should be.
Rob Hall Posted November 29, 2018 Posted November 29, 2018 6 hours ago, Joe Handley said: I do like how they look, but they, like the JK and now JL Wranglers, are just too huge for my liking. As an example, here's the promo pic of one towing a Grand Wagoneer, which tends to be considered "Full Sized" and is often considered a FSJ. As with each generation of Jeeps, a new generation is bigger than the previous. The new JL Wrangler is bigger than the previous JK etc. It's interesting, the old Grand Wagoneer was considered full size in it's day, but it's actually smaller than my WK2 Grand Cherokee... I like the new Gladiator--basically a lengthened Wrangler Unlimited with a large trunk.
NYLIBUD Posted November 29, 2018 Posted November 29, 2018 Well it's about time Jeep released the Gladiator.Its a great looking truck.However I prefer the two door model.But still,I'll stick to my 2000 XJ.Thats a great truck,hardly ever gives me any problems.Well except I need a heater core.Arrggg.Got to get that done really soon,cause it's getting real cold here in NY.
Rob Hall Posted November 29, 2018 Posted November 29, 2018 6 minutes ago, NYLIBUD said: Well it's about time Jeep released the Gladiator.Its a great looking truck.However I prefer the two door model.But still,I'll stick to my 2000 XJ.Thats a great truck,hardly ever gives me any problems.Well except I need a heater core.Arrggg.Got to get that done really soon,cause it's getting real cold here in NY. As far as I know, they aren't going to make a 2dr version, but it's been rumored. So far only the 4dr has been announced.
NYLIBUD Posted November 29, 2018 Posted November 29, 2018 Oh I didn't know that.Guess I should've read some more..But I still like the two door better.And if Jeep was smart,they should release a two door version first.
Rob Hall Posted November 29, 2018 Posted November 29, 2018 Just now, NYLIBUD said: Oh I didn't know that.Guess I should've read some more..But I still like the two door better.And if Jeep was smart,they should release a two door version first. Problem is, the 4dr would outsell a 2dr 10 to 1 probably...just like with the Wrangler today.
NYLIBUD Posted November 29, 2018 Posted November 29, 2018 2 hours ago, Rob Hall said: Problem is, the 4dr would outsell a 2dr 10 to 1 probably...just like with the Wrangler today. I'm pretty sure they will sell like crazy.I love Jeep's,real Jeep's,like my 2000 Cherokee,lifted 6,1/2 inches,running on 35s.But I have often wondered why they didn't release a so call "Wrangler Pick up",much sooner.There were rumors for years about the release of the Gladiator..I just don't know why it took so long.
Joe Handley Posted November 30, 2018 Posted November 30, 2018 5 hours ago, NYLIBUD said: Well it's about time Jeep released the Gladiator.Its a great looking truck.However I prefer the two door model.But still,I'll stick to my 2000 XJ.Thats a great truck,hardly ever gives me any problems.Well except I need a heater core.Arrggg.Got to get that done really soon,cause it's getting real cold here in NY. Now I like that, then again, I'm also own a XJ and it's the last surviving one of the 5 that we've owned since '92
iamsuperdan Posted November 30, 2018 Posted November 30, 2018 I absolutely love it, and as soon as it's available for ordering, will be grabbing one for myself.
oldnslow Posted December 1, 2018 Posted December 1, 2018 That's not a truck , it's a Jeep with a 4' baggage compartment . Needs a longer bed , you have to put down the tailgate to haul a dirt bike ? Really ? what little person is the back door for ? and , yes , it will be astronomically priced . reminds me of that Chevy abortion , the Avalanche , pick up by committee , yuck !
SfanGoch Posted December 1, 2018 Posted December 1, 2018 Add a clamshell lid on the back and you have a HUMMV clone.
espo Posted December 1, 2018 Posted December 1, 2018 Either the 4 door or the 2-door will sell well, but I have to agree with the others who prefer the 2-door body style. We have an '09 JK that sees more than it's fair share of off road use and some rock climbing during the summer months. The 4-door model with it's much longer wheel base may run into some issues if you get into the woods and some of the tighter trails and climbing. The longer wheel base means that it could become high centered or unable to maneuver in tight places. We have seen this to a lesser extent with the 4-door JK's on the trail. They are capable in every respect except the real tight places were they sometimes have to do a couple of short tight turns, kind of like trying to get into a tight parking spot in a parking lot. They can do it but they have to work harder at it. The Gladiator with 4-doors you can see the body sides between the rear doors and the rear wheel openings just how much longer the wheel base will be. This will make it that much larder to park and put it at a very big disadvantage off road.
iamsuperdan Posted December 1, 2018 Posted December 1, 2018 Wheelbase is a little more than 19" longer than the 4-door Wrangler. So yes it's longer. And if you want to carry dirtbikes, you have to put the tailgate down on most half tons anyway, so this is no different than the design norm already out there. A lot of people forget that you've been able to buy a Jeep Wrangler pickup for at least 10 years now. The AEV Brute is a factory sanctioned truck conversion, available with full FCA warranty across North America. I've driven one, and it's pretty amazing, and was no harder to park than the 4-door Wrangler I had at the time.
NYLIBUD Posted December 1, 2018 Posted December 1, 2018 I don't know,it's sort of looking like a "mall rat truck".The dimensions on the four doors,looks odd to me.Just my opinion.And again,is Jeep going to release a two door Gladiator?I keep getting different answers on line.?But still,I'll stick with my 2000 Cherokee,which has around 284,000+ miles on it.And no rust at all.Very clean XJ.The Cherokees are Jeeps greatest SUV of all time,and maybe that goes for every car maker's SUV,having the XJs be the very best. RIP XJ Cherokee Sport,1984-2001..
426 pack Posted December 2, 2018 Posted December 2, 2018 (edited) I like the single cab but the 4 door rear wheel needs to be back further. Edited December 2, 2018 by 426 pack
iamsuperdan Posted December 3, 2018 Posted December 3, 2018 On 12/1/2018 at 3:03 PM, NYLIBUD said: I don't know,it's sort of looking like a "mall rat truck".The dimensions on the four doors,looks odd to me.Just my opinion.And again,is Jeep going to release a two door Gladiator?I keep getting different answers on line.?But still,I'll stick with my 2000 Cherokee,which has around 284,000+ miles on it.And no rust at all.Very clean XJ.The Cherokees are Jeeps greatest SUV of all time,and maybe that goes for every car maker's SUV,having the XJs be the very best. RIP XJ Cherokee Sport,1984-2001.. As far as I've heard, no two door. I've talked with my FCA fleet rep about Jeeps extensively. As cool as it would be, I don't think it would sell enough to justify the extra development. TO be honest, I'm surprised they kept the two door when they went to the JL platform.
espo Posted December 3, 2018 Posted December 3, 2018 I don't think Jeep has even released the JL 2-door as of yet. I'll be hanging onto our 2-door JK for the foreseeable future.
peteski Posted December 4, 2018 Posted December 4, 2018 (edited) On 12/1/2018 at 8:29 AM, SfanGoch said: Add a clamshell lid on the back and you have a HUMMV clone. Sort of the same train of thought: it reminds me of the HUMMER H3 Alpha (male) monstrosity. It will do well with the testosterone-challenged crowd until the gas prices get up to $5/gal. at which time it will fade away the way H3 did. Edited December 4, 2018 by peteski
iamsuperdan Posted December 4, 2018 Posted December 4, 2018 Except the Jeep comes with a pretty efficient 3.6L V6, or the 2.0L Turbo 4-cylinder. And when the truck is launched, will have the 3.0L EcoDiesel. The last EcoDiesel Grand Cherokee I spent time with averaged about 7L/100km over a weekend. I think that's a about 34mpg?
Rob Hall Posted December 4, 2018 Posted December 4, 2018 I like what I've seen of the Gladiator so far..want to see one in person. I'm not a truck guy, but I like this...looks like it would be fun and practical. Though I'm a Grand Cherokee owner/fan, I also like Wranglers.
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