Revell 1968 Chevy Chevelle SS 396...........My take

[mikemodeler]

10 hours ago, tim boyd said:

 

Lastly, there are a number of outside companies that offer scanning services to the automotive industry.  Nearly ten years ago I gave a list of three such companies to Revell when I was encouraging them at the time to use one of those scanning services to improve their body proportions for kit topics where factory OEM scan data was not available.  Even then the costs were much lower than many would assume, but I was told that the (much smaller) kit development budgets these days precluded even such a modest expenditure.   One other point, which I neglected to include in my communications to Revell on this subject, was the additional costs to a kit manufacturer of taking the scan data and adapting/processing it to the creation of 1/25th scale kit tools.  

Still, my view at the time, and one that remains today, is that the incremental spend for scanning and data processing would be more than returned via incremental lifetime sales of tools developed with the level of body accuracy enabled by scanning, as well as avoiding the incremental time and spend resulting from reworks of kits not developed with scanning as an enabler.   

 

 

I would hope that the model industry would see scanning as a money saving option as pointed out by Tim above. Too many times companies seem to be short sighted on things like new technology but always have time to do the job over several times "the old way" instead of admitting their error.

If the scans could literally be transformed from a computer file into a 3D mock up in a couple of days versus what must take weeks or months to do the "old way", not to mention accuracy beyond compare, I would think a smart project manager would see the cost savings.

[Ron Hamilton]

On 1/7/2019 at 2:46 PM, Dave Toups said:

Fireball lists these dog-dish caps and steel wheels for 68-69 Camaros. Would they be good for the Chevelle as well?

 

Why yes they will Dave.

[MrObsessive]

5 hours ago, mikemodeler said:

I would hope that the model industry would see scanning as a money saving option as pointed out by Tim above. Too many times companies seem to be short sighted on things like new technology but always have time to do the job over several times "the old way" instead of admitting their error.

If the scans could literally be transformed from a computer file into a 3D mock up in a couple of days versus what must take weeks or months to do the "old way", not to mention accuracy beyond compare, I would think a smart project manager would see the cost savings.

This is one of those posts where I wish there was a 'like' or a thumbs up icon! Well said and very TRUE!

[Greg Wann]

On ‎12‎/‎22‎/‎2018 at 11:25 PM, mk11 said:

Great review, Bill. Here's the best pic I could currently find of the MCG fret for the Chevelles...

 

 

OK EH!  There's Beaumont parts here eh!.  You should all get some resin parts from Mike Schnur Eh!  How about a "what if" Baldwin Motion Beaumont eh!?  I always enjoyed watching Second City Television back in the late 70'S.  Much funnier than SNL.  This is where John Candy and others started. Mrs. Falbo's Tiny town.  Someone would blow up real good on the morning farm report, The fishin' Musician, the list goes on.  This is where I first heard the band called "The Tubes"  AWSOME MUSIC TOO.  They are actually from Tempe, Arizona I did not think Canadians actually spoke like that until I met a couple while working at Purdue University building a new laboratory.  They were a couple of funny guys.  My Dad used to watch the Red Green Show.  That was just too funny too.  I presume you guys don't build models with duct tape, eh?

 

Edited January 11, 2019 by Greg Wann

[Snake45]

27 minutes ago, Greg Wann said:

OK EH!  There's Beaumont parts here eh!.  You should all get some resin parts from Mike Schnur Eh!  How about a "what if" Baldwin Motion Beaumont eh!?  I always enjoyed watching Second City Television back in the late 70'S.  Much funnier than SNL.  This is where John Candy and others started. Mrs. Falbo's Tiny town.  Someone would blow up real good on the morning farm report, The fishin' Musician, the list goes on.  This is where I first heard the band called "The Tubes"  AWSOME MUSIC TOO.  They are actually from Tempe, Arizona I did not think Canadians actually spoke like that until I met a couple while working at Purdue University building a new laboratory.  They were a couple of funny guys.  My Dad used to watch the Red Green Show.  That was just too funny too.  I presume you guys don't build models with duct tape, eh?

Great post! SCTV was fabulous. I was in love with Lola ("I wanna have aaaaaaall your children!") Heatherton, but my alltime favorite SCTV line was delivered by Joe Flaherty's Guy Caballero in The Godfather parody: "I will make him an offer that...I think will be to his liking." 

[Greg Wann]

That was funny stuff

Edited January 11, 2019 by Greg Wann

[Greg Wann]

https://video.search.yahoo.com/yhs/search?fr=yhs-arh-001&hsimp=yhs-001&hspart=arh&p=i+wanna+bear+your+children+sctv#id=1&vid=7efb0ebc43220f04f414f4ae48536ce9&action=click

 

PRICELESS

Edited January 11, 2019 by Greg Wann

[bbowser]

How about Bob & Doug MacKenzie?  Good day, Eh?

[Snake45]

20 minutes ago, bbowser said:

How about Bob & Doug MacKenzie?  Good day, Eh?

Hoser!  Beauty, eh? 

[Xingu]

Lets try to keep on track.....'68 Chevelle.

[Daddyfink]

[Rob Hall]

Looking over my '68, one small detail I noticed that hasn't been mentioned here I think...the wheels and tires are normal style, not with the ring on the wheel that fits in the tire like we have seen with other recently tooled Revell kits. Nice. 

[Classicgas]

Yes. I much appreciate that as I am planning to use steelies and caps on mine.

[ZTony8]

If Revell IS doing a '69 Chevelle I wonder why they didn't take a lesson from the '68/ '69 Charger and leave off the marker lights on the Chevelle. One less thing requiring a new tool-unless they're going to make only one run of the '68 and forever alter the tooling (ala the '68/ '69 Dart). Hmmmm.

[Rob Hall]

Just now, ZTony8 said:

If Revell IS doing a '69 Chevelle I wonder why they didn't take a lesson from the '68/ '69 Charger and leave off the marker lights on the Chevelle. One less thing requiring a new tool-unless they're going to make only one run of the '68 and forever alter the tooling (ala the '68/ '69 Dart). Hmmmm.

I assume they have different side tool inserts for a 69 body, since the 69 doesn’t have the vent windows, different side trim, different marker lights.  

[Luc Janssens]

2 minutes ago, ZTony8 said:

If Revell IS doing a '69 Chevelle I wonder why they didn't take a lesson from the '68/ '69 Charger and leave off the marker lights on the Chevelle. One less thing requiring a new tool-unless they're going to make only one run of the '68 and forever alter the tooling (ala the '68/ '69 Dart). Hmmmm.

The '69 Dart tool was altered because it tanked, so they modified it, in the hope, it would generate a profit,...

 

[Luc Janssens]

5 minutes ago, Rob Hall said:

I assume they have different side tool inserts for a 69 body, since the 69 doesn’t have the vent windows, different side trim, different marker lights.  

Rob, you could be on to something....same core, same top cavity....I'm crossing my fingers that a '69 is in the works.

[Rob Hall]

4 minutes ago, Luc Janssens said:

Rob, you could be on to something....same core, same top cavity....I'm crossing my fingers that a '69 is in the works.

Well, as nightowl770 said, if this is modern style tooling the tooling was all done at once and all the variants planned out.  

[sfhess]

I heard from an former inside source that a 69 Chevelle kit was planned and engineered at the same time as the  68.

[Casey]

1 hour ago, sfhess said:

I heard from an former inside source that a 69 Chevelle kit was planned and engineered at the same time as the  68.

Robert Glucksman This is a Brand new tool of the 68, then 69 Chevelle An Inspired tool from the Great Ron Rowlett...
I am extremely proud of this build, & Honored to have worked with Ron..
The fit on the test shot was excellent, the seams are almost non existent. Considering the gates for this kit, well, just one more reason that Ron is the best

 

[1972coronet]

3 hours ago, Luc Janssens said:

The '69 Dart tool was altered because it tanked, so they modified it, in the hope, it would generate a profit,...

 

I certainly don't remember the 1969 Dart GTS 383 being a failure , sales-wise or otherwise ! Quite the opposite ; that kit was groundbreaking and a runaway sales success . The de facto backdating to a '68 was proposed for 1996 , as the back page of the Revell-Monogram catalogue alluded to a Hurst-Hemi variant . While that proposal was ostensibly the very last to be released in the Dart series , the other 1968 variants were successful in preceding the 'LO23' :

- Mr. Norms 1968 GSS 440 (with moulded-on vinyl top)

- Landy's 1968 SS/EA "'M' Code" (vinyl top trim evidence on C-pillars)

 -   The "2-in1" 1968 GTS 383 / Hurst-Hemi SS/A(A) 

[Can-Con]

On 1/11/2019 at 5:59 PM, Xingu said:

Lets try to keep on track.....'68 Chevelle.

Thank you Michael.  

[lordairgtar]

One question. In my kit of the 68, the instructions show part number 101 (fan clutch) as having a shaft which fits through the fan and pulleys and into the water pump. The actual part on the tree shows no such shaft. Was mine short shot or is there a discrepancy between part and drawing?

 

[RichCostello]

1 hour ago, lordairgtar said:

One question. In my kit of the 68, the instructions show part number 101 (fan clutch) as having a shaft which fits through the fan and pulleys and into the water pump. The actual part on the tree shows no such shaft. Was mine short shot or is there a discrepancy between part and drawing?

 

Mine's the same, must be a mistake on the instructions.

[lordairgtar]

Thanks