Richard Bartrop Posted March 31, 2019 Posted March 31, 2019 1 hour ago, Jon Haigwood said: When did they go from real wood on a Woodie to metal painted to look like wood? Fake wood Apparently, the process was iintroduced by National Cash Register in 1918 for their products. Before the carmakers used fake wood on the outside, which is a postward trend, they were using metal painted wood for interior trim like dashboards before the war.
Jon Haigwood Posted March 31, 2019 Posted March 31, 2019 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Spex84 said: I had that idea in 2002 and I'm still sorta jealous that someone else actually made it. Good thing I didn't spend much time on the idea, because it seems to have gone over like a lead balloon. Too bad--I think it's really neat!! I was aware of porta-walls, but hadn't seen the metal versions before. Cool! Back in the 60's you could buy white lettering and numbers to glue to the side of your tires to simulate raised white lettering. I did a quick search and you can still buy them. At Bed Bath and Beyond no less. Edited March 31, 2019 by Jon Haigwood
SfanGoch Posted March 31, 2019 Posted March 31, 2019 1 hour ago, Jon Haigwood said: When did they go from real wood on a Woodie to metal painted to look like wood? Fake wood What about fake wood trim inside the passenger compartment, especially in Caddys, Lincolns and other top-of-the-line models? Nothing says cheesy more than plastic simulated wood trim.
Richard Bartrop Posted March 31, 2019 Posted March 31, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, SfanGoch said: What about fake wood trim inside the passenger compartment, especially in Caddys, Lincolns and other top-of-the-line models? Nothing says cheesy more than plastic simulated wood trim. Fake wood in Lincolns has been a thing for quite a while, as this 1941 Lincoln Continental shows. Edited March 31, 2019 by Richard Bartrop
Spex84 Posted April 1, 2019 Posted April 1, 2019 4 hours ago, Richard Bartrop said: Nothing says cheesy more than plastic simulated wood trim. How about real wood trim that has been clear-coated/plasticized to the point where it might as well be plastic? Apparently Bentley's wood burl dash veneer is very carefully applied and treated so it still has the surface texture of real wood. Yawn. I think I'll go fondle a birch, and save $200k
The Junkman Posted April 1, 2019 Posted April 1, 2019 (edited) Never let a classic idea go to waste: Los Angeles Jan 2018 Yes, that's a Volvo s/w Edited April 1, 2019 by The Junkman
Bucky Posted April 1, 2019 Posted April 1, 2019 This says it all: Wide whites...moon caps...wood "grain"...connie kit!!!!!! It just needs a visor from a '49 Ford on the windshield!!
Richard Bartrop Posted April 1, 2019 Posted April 1, 2019 I....actually like it. Unlike a lot of retro fakery, it all actually looks like it's supposed to be there. I suppose it helps a lot that it's all on a car that itself is a big fake. Bascially a Neon trying to pretend it's a 1940 ford.
1930fordpickup Posted April 1, 2019 Posted April 1, 2019 9 hours ago, Richard Bartrop said: Fake wood in Lincolns has been a thing for quite a while, as this 1941 Lincoln Continental shows. Some of the coach built cars in the 30's used this also. I was shocked to find out they started this back in the 30's.
1930fordpickup Posted April 1, 2019 Posted April 1, 2019 On 3/30/2019 at 8:01 PM, PierreR89 said: This is a Jeep cherokee Orvis edition from the UK Look close at the hood of it and you can see 2 vents and at the tailgate there is a spoiler. Those parts do absolutley nothing, the vents are fake and taped on with 3M tape or something similar, the rear spolier is useless on something that is not a sportvehicle. There is a brakelight in it tho so its used for something. The spoiler in the back is to keep dust off of the rear window when off road.
Bucky Posted April 1, 2019 Posted April 1, 2019 1 hour ago, Richard Bartrop said: I....actually like it. Unlike a lot of retro fakery, it all actually looks like it's supposed to be there. I suppose it helps a lot that it's all on a car that itself is a big fake. Bascially a Neon trying to pretend it's a 1940 ford. I forgot to mention the side pipes on Petie!!!
Bucky Posted April 1, 2019 Posted April 1, 2019 The "spoiler" on this roof rack is actually more of a deflector: It directed air flow down across the tailgate window, to help keep dust off.
randyc Posted April 1, 2019 Posted April 1, 2019 (edited) On an SUV or CUV, the rear spoiler (like on the Cherokee mentioned), I think it is at least slightly useful. Keeps the rear window from getting quite so dirty from the aerodynamics at play. I think. I could be wrong. But all this stuff is fun to look at. Was at a classic car auction a few weeks back and there was a 56 Buick with the fake wide white overlays. I think it was a purposeful addition to give that 60's retro look. I was okay with it. And they were just on there - not really laying on the tire tight. Surprised no one has mentioned the 70 Charger door scoops yet. Fake door scoops to hide simulated door vents. The ultimate in fakery? Edited April 1, 2019 by randyc stupid monday morning fat fingered typing skills
Rob Hall Posted April 1, 2019 Posted April 1, 2019 My Jeep has the overhang over the rear window...mostly for aerodynamics, would look unfinished if it wasn't there..
The Junkman Posted April 1, 2019 Posted April 1, 2019 On 3/30/2019 at 8:41 AM, espo said: I had asked the Zone Rep. from Pontiac "what were they thinking". His story line was that it was a committee design. Pontiac Division had work shops with non GM employees asking what they were looking for in a new car. AS it turned out a majority of the people in the work shops were very early twenties since that was their target buyers. The problem is by the time they put it all together and brought it to market it cost to much for the target buyers and it was during the plastic cladding era at GM and so it looked the way it looked because no one had a clear vision of what it should be. I always entertained the theory that some Pontiac chief ("chief": get it? I slay myself) came up with a product and pushed it so hard that no one had the cojones to tell him/her "Boss, that's a gawd awful design" so it sailed through. Bad groupthink would work too.
espo Posted April 1, 2019 Posted April 1, 2019 1 hour ago, Rob Hall said: My Jeep has the overhang over the rear window...mostly for aerodynamics, would look unfinished if it wasn't there.. Another function to consider is the slight amount of shade on the rear window. Any shade will help in a vehicle of this design, hence the factory dark tinted rear and side windows. There is a lot of volume in these vehicles to try and cool in sunny weather. The dark area also makes the third stop light easier to see from behind. I'd give this design a pass based on the function alone.
cobraman Posted April 1, 2019 Posted April 1, 2019 In 1978 I happened to be at a Ford dealer. On the delivery truck was a brand spanking new Mustang King Cobra in dark blue. I told the sales guy " That's my car ! " I did buy it and I really thought it was cool but it did have a lot of fake "dress up stuff" that the under powered 302 really did not need.
afx Posted April 1, 2019 Posted April 1, 2019 47 minutes ago, cobraman said: In 1978 I happened to be at a Ford dealer. On the delivery truck was a brand spanking new Mustang King Cobra in dark blue. I told the sales guy " That's my car ! " I did buy it and I really thought it was cool but it did have a lot of fake "dress up stuff" that the under powered 302 really did not need. Something like this Ray?
Jon Haigwood Posted April 1, 2019 Posted April 1, 2019 The ultimate "Fake" : Pretends to be a sports car, Not a car in the first place.
Jon Haigwood Posted April 1, 2019 Posted April 1, 2019 18 minutes ago, SfanGoch said: Wind-up key or AAA batteries? Foot pedals
cobraman Posted April 1, 2019 Posted April 1, 2019 2 hours ago, afx said: Something like this Ray? The same except a dark blue.
Jon Haigwood Posted April 1, 2019 Posted April 1, 2019 4 minutes ago, cobraman said: The same except a dark blue. I had a 76 like this one that sat in the driveway waiting on some care but could never get the title so it never was driven
Jantrix Posted April 1, 2019 Posted April 1, 2019 13 hours ago, Bucky said: The "spoiler" on this roof rack is actually more of a deflector: It directed air flow down across the tailgate window, to help keep dust off. Also if I'm not mistaken, to direct exhaust down and away from the car, rather that rolling up and into the rear window and gag your backwards facing kiddies.
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