BVC500 Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 As expected...https://www.hiroboy.com/124_Toyota_GR_Supra__Tamiya_24351--product--13375.html?fbclid=IwAR2dp_ClKmAIRB5pjuZqpvnKABYM6Tx8thE_alsCT0xlQK5DS5aQLxJIA9c Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy124 Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 I know this should be about the kit but... what an ugly car. And I don't know what to make of the fact that the world's biggest car manufacturer is getting the engine for their only high performance sports car from BMW. Aren't they an innovative motor company having won the 24 hours of Le Mans in the last two years? The kit will be great though, as it's from Tamiya... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bennyg Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 Definitely not surprised by this! Very pleased. Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Van Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 The ugly stick worked overtime on this one......BTW why in the world do they call the Xfinity series Toyota called a Supra??? The race car is twice the size of the street...not even close. The kit will be nice....it's Tamiya....but wish they had spent the investment on something else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Porter Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 30 minutes ago, Tommy124 said: I know this should be about the kit but... what an ugly car. And I don't know what to make of the fact that the world's biggest car manufacturer is getting the engine for their only high performance sports car from BMW. Aren't they an innovative motor company having won the 24 hours of Le Mans in the last two years? The kit will be great though, as it's from Tamiya... A: It's far from their only high performance sports car given that the GT86 and Lexus LC500 are still alive and well. B: Why tool up an entirely new straight six and platform when the goal is a profitable mid-volume sports car? Works out well for BMW as well since now a much bigger company has absorbed tooling costs for a new generation of what's been a dwindling returns model; the Z4. As to the kit, I'm not at all surprised and I'm looking forward to putting it on the shelf especially if it's embraced Tamiya's more cost and design contained philosophy like we saw on the NSX. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy124 Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 1 minute ago, Justin Porter said: A: It's far from their only high performance sports car given that the GT86 and Lexus LC500 are still alive and well. B: Why tool up an entirely new straight six and platform when the goal is a profitable mid-volume sports car? Works out well for BMW as well since now a much bigger company has absorbed tooling costs for a new generation of what's been a dwindling returns model; the Z4. Referring to A: from my point of view a GT86 is not a high performance sports car but an entry level sports car. And a Lexus is not exactly a Toyota, as we probably agree. As you might get from my hint to the Le Mans win, I am trying to understand the Toyota brand strategy here, which brings me to B: why - because they can - or could, at least. They could have gone for a V6 or something else they actually build themselves. Of course, it's a great deal for BMW, no doubt about that. Needless to say, these are just my thoughts. But brands and their cars struggle to have some profile of their own nowadays. And I don't like the fact that everything increasingly gets mixed up in those cars that are anything but cheap: Supra's with BMW engines, Aston Martin's with AMG engines... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stitchdup Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 lexus are toyotas, they just rebadge them for the euro and usa markets. they dont have lexus in japan. as for companies sharing platforms, its what everyone else does. look at the late 70s compacts mopar sold, then there's scion that were only for the us market. also sports car has never meant fast car, it means a fun weekend car and were originaly mostly small european 2 seaters but mazda resurrected them with the mx5/miata and the worlds a better place for it happening Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
echoxrayniner Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 When I first saw it around the time of the announcement of the BMW-Toyota partnership on the new Supra, I thought the thing looked like a designer drew up a Z4 from memory while on LSD but I gotta say... it's growing on me, and you can't argue it won't turn heads on the road(whether it's out or disgust or amazement). Glad to see Tamiya doing the kit, at the very least it'll be a superb quality kit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stavanzer Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 Urk! What an Ugly Car. Even by today's Aero-Blob Design Language, that thing is a pile. Of course the kit will fit nicely because, Tamiya, but I agree. I wish the tooling dollars(Yen) had been invested in something better. (An FJ-40 maybe). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
89AKurt Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 Far as a modern car goes, it's not ugly IMHO. Safety regulations dictate some things, like a hood that cushions stupid militant pedestrians who walk right in front of you. I like their concept car, this seems to be tamed down. As for using BMW for the engine, that will bite owners down the road, I owned 2 MINI Coopers, their parts are gold-plated. If I already didn't have 180+ models, I would probably get this, but won't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niteowl7710 Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, stitchdup said: lexus are toyotas, they just rebadge them for the euro and usa markets. they dont have lexus in japan. as for companies sharing platforms, its what everyone else does. look at the late 70s compacts mopar sold, then there's scion that were only for the us market. also sports car has never meant fast car, it means a fun weekend car and were originaly mostly small european 2 seaters but mazda resurrected them with the mx5/miata and the worlds a better place for it happening Lexus was "established" as a Japanese brand back in 2005. Since then it's been operating as a global brand of Toyota selling it's own cars and designs, rather than rebadging Aristos, Soarers, and Celsiors. Edited August 27, 2019 by niteowl7710 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Hall Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 Speaking of Lexus, I'd love to see a kit of the LC500..it's a car that looks better in person than in photos. Looking forward to the new Supra kit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Bartrop Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, stitchdup said: lexus are toyotas, they just rebadge them for the euro and usa markets. they dont have lexus in japan. as for companies sharing platforms, its what everyone else does. look at the late 70s compacts mopar sold, then there's scion that were only for the us market. also sports car has never meant fast car, it means a fun weekend car and were originaly mostly small european 2 seaters but mazda resurrected them with the mx5/miata and the worlds a better place for it happening And you had those Suzukis and Toyotas sold as Chevrolets. BMW got its start in he car business by building Austin 7s, and calling them Dixis, and later they built Iso's Isetta. Edited August 27, 2019 by Richard Bartrop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BVC500 Posted August 27, 2019 Author Share Posted August 27, 2019 26 minutes ago, Rob Hall said: Speaking of Lexus, I'd love to see a kit of the LC500..it's a car that looks better in person than in photos. Looking forward to the new Supra kit. I second the LC500. I was hoping for a Mercedes G-wagon given Tamiya is doing it in RC form, but it was a sure bet the Supra would be coming first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martinfan5 Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 3 hours ago, stitchdup said: lexus are toyotas, they just rebadge them for the euro and usa markets. they dont have lexus in japan. as for companies sharing platforms, its what everyone else does. look at the late 70s compacts mopar sold, then there's scion that were only for the us market. also sports car has never meant fast car, it means a fun weekend car and were originaly mostly small european 2 seaters but mazda resurrected them with the mx5/miata and the worlds a better place for it happening https://lexus.jp/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martinfan5 Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 Not at all surprised they are doing it, looking forward it . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ Deuce Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 I like it, other than not offering a manual trans. And it's not just the BMW engine. it's basically just a rebodied Z4. that interior is all BMW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belugawrx Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 (edited) How would a front clip from an E type or a miata look on that...? Edited August 27, 2019 by Belugawrx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Tommy124 Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 21 hours ago, stitchdup said: lexus are toyotas Not as a brand, which I was referring to. In those countries, where they sell them Lexus cars, those cars are not called Toyota - right? 21 hours ago, stitchdup said: also sports car has never meant fast car But high performance sport car has always meant that, which is what I was referring to. 21 hours ago, stitchdup said: it means a fun weekend car and were originaly mostly small european 2 seaters but mazda resurrected them with the mx5/miata There may be differences in using the term in different regions, but in our part of the world that would be called a roadster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikemodeler Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 20 hours ago, Rob Hall said: Speaking of Lexus, I'd love to see a kit of the LC500..it's a car that looks better in person than in photos. Looking forward to the new Supra kit. As a Toyota company employee who has sat in and been around a LC500, I will second this. Quote Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martinfan5 Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 On 8/27/2019 at 7:52 AM, Tommy124 said: And a Lexus is not exactly a Toyota, as we probably agree. Without Toyota, there is no Lexus, so once again, Lexus is a brand , and the luxury arm of Toyota, and what you dont understand is many of the Lexus models are based off of Toyota models, current line up Lexus IS- Toyota Altezza( thru 2013) Its now on the New N Platform as the GS Lexus ES- is based on the Toyota Avalon XX50 Lexus GS- is built on the New N Platform , its only shared with the Lexus GS/IS/RC, but the N Platform in which its based off of is used for Toyota models, Mark II family: Mark II sedan (1991−2004)Mark II Blit wagon (2002–2007 Verossa (2001–2004 Chaser (1991−2001) Cresta (1991−2001). Mark X sedan (2004–2019)[1][2][3] Aristo (1991–2005) Crown/Crown Majesta (1991–2018)Crown Comfort/Comfort (1995–2017) Progrès (1998–2007, part of XG platform) Brevis (2001–2007, part of XG platform) Origin (2000–2001) Lexus IS/Toyota Altezza — XE10 (1998–2005), XE20 (2005–2013) Lexus GS/Toyota Aristo — S140 (1991–1997), S160 (1997–2005), S190 (2005–2012) Lexus LS/Toyota Celsior (1989–2017) Lexus SC — Z40 (2001–2010) Lexus LF-X concept (2003) Lexus LS- Its on platform GA-L the Lexus LC shares this platform Lexus UX- Toyota C-HR Lexus NX- New MC platform, used for the following Toyota's , Toyota Alphard, Avensis , Auris,Corolla,Harrier,Mark X Zio,Previa,Prius,Rav-4,Verso,Sai, tC,xB, Lexus CT,HS,NX Lexus RX- Toyota Harrier ( XU60 Lexus GX- Toyota Land Cruiser Prado Lexus LX- Toyota Land Cruiser Lexus RC- New N Platform, see above Lexus LC- New N Platform, see above above Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiscoRover007 Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 Can't wait. The new supra has grown on me and it's a beautiful car in its own right. I think it looks best in yellow or silver. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkman Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 Yellow then, because no car looks good in Depression Metalllic. When Frazer Nash and Bristol did their BMW thingy, it was still considered a good thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martinfan5 Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 (edited) I looked up what colors the Supra is offered in to decided which one I am going to use, and guess what, I know yalls are gonna be shocked , all the colors but one are BMW colors Absolute Zero White = (A96). Aka BMW Mineral White Metallic Nocturnal Black = (475). Aka BMW Black Sapphire Metallic Renaissance Red 2.0 = (A61). Aka BMW Crimson Red Tungsten Silver = (A83). Aka BMW Glacier Silver Metallic Turbulence Gray = (C2Y). Aka BMW Bluestone Metallic Nitro Yellow = (B21). Aka BMW Atacama Yellow Downshift Blue = (C10). Aka BMW Mediterranean Blue Phantom Matte Gray = (C3A). Not found in BMW paint code. I believe Tada san did say this was color was unique just to the Supra. Ive narrowed it down to either Turbulence Gray or Downshift Blue. Edited August 29, 2019 by martinfan5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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