tim boyd Posted November 18, 2023 Share Posted November 18, 2023 I was in a rush at the NNL Motor City last Sunday and missed the table occupied by the team behind the new company organized under the Jo-Han USA Oldies LLC name. However, Todd Sargis was there and took several images of the material at the subject table. Apparently, this new group is not affiliated with the JoHan company (note the different spelling) that did the 1959 Rambler wagon kit some time back, as well as some other projects including most recently, a proposed Powell pickup kit. With Todd's permission (these are his photos) and Todd's reported concurrence from the Jo-Han USA Oldies LLC team, here are a couple of information images. Apparently, they also had a display at the NNL Undercover event in Akron a couple of weeks ago. The Utility Trailer shown above is their first product, and reportedly their first run of that product is already sold out. As stated above, I did not talk to the principles so I cannot relay any further information or answer questions. Sorry 'bout that. But it certainly sounds interesting, to say the least. Thanks again to Todd Sargis for the information and for providing the above two pictures....TIM 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Van Posted November 19, 2023 Share Posted November 19, 2023 I have known Jack Higgins since the 80's when he started JNJ Decals. If you built NASCAR kits you know. I hope they do well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motor City Posted November 19, 2023 Share Posted November 19, 2023 Who are the other two principals listed on the letter? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
66c10 Posted November 19, 2023 Share Posted November 19, 2023 That's cool jo-han is coming back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDO Posted November 19, 2023 Share Posted November 19, 2023 I think it’s kind of odd to use the Jo-Han name to issue new multi-media kits. Just let the name Rest In Peace. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luc Janssens Posted November 19, 2023 Share Posted November 19, 2023 18 minutes ago, LDO said: I think it’s kind of odd to use the Jo-Han name to issue new multi-media kits. Just let the name Rest In Peace. Small steps at a time? Who knows what their ultimate goals are. Wait and see I guess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Hall Posted November 19, 2023 Share Posted November 19, 2023 (edited) I saw the display and the trailer at the Akron show recently, looking forward to see where they go with it... Edited November 19, 2023 by Rob Hall Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luc Janssens Posted November 19, 2023 Share Posted November 19, 2023 So the trailer is printed anyone know what kind of material it is? Thanks! Luc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thatz4u Posted November 19, 2023 Share Posted November 19, 2023 for further info, contact them here..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldcarfan Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 Here's hoping they do well. I'll buy a couple of the trailer once they become available. Maybe with the advent of scanning and 3-D tooling manufacture they can redo some of the old offerings and who knows, maybe venture into current model cars, too. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclescott58 Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 I’m as disappointed with the above announcement Tim is showing us. As I am excited with the news gave Tim us else where here, about Round 2’s upcoming kits. I was hoping for a Jo-Han model company that reissued old Jo-Han kits the way Round 2 is reissuing old AMT and MPC kits. The Utility Trailer is kind of cool. But, not what I’m really wanting from a model company using the good old “Jo-Han” name. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Hall Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 (edited) 11 minutes ago, unclescott58 said: I’m as disappointed with the above announcement Tim is showing us. As I am excited with the news gave Tim us else where here, about Round 2’s upcoming kits. I was hoping for a Jo-Han model company that reissued old Jo-Han kits the way Round 2 is reissuing old AMT and MPC kits. Anything they would do, though would have to be new tooling since the old tooling no longer exists. This is just the first item. Edited November 20, 2023 by Rob Hall Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sport Suburban Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 I'm just wondering here. Did Okey Spalding sell what he owned of "JoHan Models LLC"? Or is this "Jo-Han USA Oldies LLC" a separate entity? I haven't seen anything from Okey in years but I did buy some of his Resin interior 69 AMX reproduced promos about 15 years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luc Janssens Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 17 hours ago, unclescott58 said: I’m as disappointed with the above announcement Tim is showing us. As I am excited with the news gave Tim us else where here, about Round 2’s upcoming kits. I was hoping for a Jo-Han model company that reissued old Jo-Han kits the way Round 2 is reissuing old AMT and MPC kits. The Utility Trailer is kind of cool. But, not what I’m really wanting from a model company using the good old “Jo-Han” name. Rome wasn't built in a day. 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 2 hours ago, Luc Janssens said: Rome wasn't built in a day. 😉 But if they could 3D print it, it could be done faster... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul alflen Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 The Jo-han trademark was abandoned in 2002? It probably cost $$$$ to renew or re-register it. Lawyers bought the rights to it. The new Johan purchased the rights to the name from those lawyers? Google- Johan trademark- who owns it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrenchr Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 Both Johan companies were at the D.A.A.M show a few weeks ago. Okey and this new one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GMP440 Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 8 hours ago, Sport Suburban said: I'm just wondering here. Did Okey Spalding sell what he owned of "JoHan Models LLC"? Or is this "Jo-Han USA Oldies LLC" a separate entity? I haven't seen anything from Okey in years but I did buy some of his Resin interior 69 AMX reproduced promos about 15 years ago. I was wondering the same thing. If Jo-Han USA Oldies LLC is the new company; did Okey Spaulding sell his ownership of the JoHan/Seville name ? How is he able to sell the JoHan kit parts when there is a new company now? Is this a situation where there are two Johan entities; one entity owned by Okey Spaulding and another owned by a group of individuals that call their company JoHan USA Models LLC? Looks like there is two Jo-Han companies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 Okey didn't buy the company, only tooling and (some) leftover stock. For all we know, the original Jo-Han company could still be in business under some other name, producing some unknown (to us) product or service. Okey's operation is Johan (no hyphen), the other one is hyphenated as was the original company's name. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Hall Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 On 11/19/2023 at 12:54 PM, Luc Janssens said: So the trailer is printed anyone know what kind of material it is? Thanks! Luc I heard it explained at the Akron show, but don't recall...something about wood filaments for the bed decking, I think...looking forward to getting mine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thatz4u Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 10 hours ago, Sport Suburban said: I'm just wondering here. Did Okey Spalding sell what he owned of "JoHan Models LLC"? Or is this "Jo-Han USA Oldies LLC" a separate entity? I haven't seen anything from Okey in years but I did buy some of his Resin interior 69 AMX reproduced promos about 15 years ago. 2 seperate enitiies, no connection between them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thatz4u Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, wrenchr said: Both Johan companies were at the D.A.A.M show a few weeks ago. Okey and this new one. same at the C.A.R.B.S. show in Dayton,, OH..pix & video here... Edited November 21, 2023 by thatz4u 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iangilly Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 I know all 3 of the guys behind the new johan and they are not affiliated with Okey at all, completely new company. They don't want to put a bad taste in any mouths so theyre starting off small with the trailer to see how those do and are going from there. They won't do any sales till they have product in hand. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobthehobbyguy Posted November 22, 2023 Share Posted November 22, 2023 Hopefully these guys will make something happen with Johan. And for those that want the old kits cloned they need to direct those requests to them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deathgoblin Posted November 22, 2023 Share Posted November 22, 2023 Would be nice to see them reverse engineer some of the old kits. Maybe the body shells with new underpinnings? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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