Moebius 1961 Pontiac news

['70 Grande]

I wonder if it would be possible to engineer each of the clear windows so they would be not as thick as typical kit windows, and then have a groove molded into the window frames where these thin glass pieces could be "popped" tightly into place without needing any glue. Just an idea...

[ShredHippie]

1961 has always been one of my favorite Pontiacs...that front end! Looking forward to this model as well..

[Luc Janssens]

Luc, I sure hope not! Painting that would be a REAL pain! AMT when they did their '62 Bel Air bubbletop didn't seem to have any troubles in this regard.........I'm hoping Moebius doesn't foist that on us!

Well it's that or pre-decorated taillites

;^)

[Dave Metzner]

Just a small up-date - the first test shots were sent out on 9/16 - I ought to have them early next week

[unclescott58]

This, the '65 Comet, and the Ford pickups are what I'm waiting for. Again thanks for the updates.

Scott

[Danno]

Just a small up-date - the first test shots were sent out on 9/16 - I ought to have them early next week

[John Goschke]

Just a small up-date - the first test shots were sent out on 9/16 - I ought to have them early next week

Oh, boy, oh, boy....

[Dave Metzner]

First test shots got here this morning - they look pretty good, I'll be trying to get one whacked together for the Chicago - IHobby show..Hope to throw some paint on it.. will start gluing parts together in the morning..

[unclescott58]

First test shots got here this morning - they look pretty good, I'll be trying to get one whacked together for the Chicago - IHobby show..Hope to throw some paint on it.. will start gluing parts together in the morning..

Yippee! That means it's getting closer to getting into our hands!

Scott

[samdiego]

There's a little feature of this kit that I think is gonna blow a lot of minds (not to mention inspire creative thinking!)

Art

An alternator bracket and a dipstick?

A good friend's father was a master mechanic with serious Pontiac connections. Ron's Mom's car was a Red '61 Catalina 2+2 4spd with the 421 SD that pretty much had to be ordered by the part and assembled by the owner. And that Women could hit her gears! Still in my top 5 list

Edited September 29, 2014 by samdiego

[John Goschke]

An alternator bracket and a dipstick?

A good friend's father was a master mechanic with serious Pontiac connections. Ron's Mom's car was a Red '61 Catalina 2+2 4spd with the 421 SD that pretty much had to be ordered by the part and assembled by the owner. And that Women could hit her gears! Still in my top 5 list

No 2+2 until '64.

Dave, will we get to see pics of the built up test shot? Plleeeezzz!!!

[samdiego]

No 2+2 until '64.

Normally I wouldn't argue the point, but I spent my share of time in and around that car. Absolutely a Bubble. I remember washing around the 2+2 emblem and wondering what that meant. Odd I know, I don't see any mention on the web, but like most UFO sightings I know what I saw. My circle ran a lot of Pontiacs in the mid seventies so I was fairly hip to Ponchos. I had a '68 400 Firebird 4 spd. Mom had Bonnevilles. Ron had an SD Trans Am. Ron's Dad had uber connections to PMD that went back to race sponsorships in the 50s. Again, I touched it!

Edited September 29, 2014 by samdiego

[horsepower]

The bubble top hardtops were sold as sport coupes in Bonneville and Catalina trim versions.

I can't say what you saw, but the DuPont registry has no history of a 2+2 being made by Pontiac until 1964,_you can pull up "2+2 history", and it will show you the VIN for every registered 2+2 left.

Edited September 29, 2014 by horsepower

[unclescott58]

John and Del are 100% right on this. There were no 2+2s before 1964. And no bubble tops after 1961 for Pontiac. Del you did miss one other '61 bubble top. Besides the Catalina and Bonneville, Pontiac also offered a Ventura bubble.

Sam, I don't know what you were washing. It was either a bubble top or a 2+2. But not both in one car.

Scott

[sfhess]

Someone stuck 2+2 emblems on a bubbletop?

[horsepower]

John and Del are 100% right on this. There were no 2+2s before 1964. And no bubble tops after 1961 for Pontiac. Del you did miss one other '61 bubble top. Besides the Catalina and Bonneville, Pontiac also offered a Ventura bubble.

Sam, I don't know what you were washing. It was either a bubble top or a 2+2. But not both in one car.

Scott

Forgot all about the Ventura, and that's what Moebius is kitting isn't it?

[unclescott58]

Forgot all about the Ventura, and that's what Moebius is kitting isn't it?

The impression I've got is Moebius will eventuly offer both a Ventura and a Catalina. There's not a lot of difference between the two. Mainly slightly nicer interior trim on the Ventura. In fact, the next year, 1962, the Ventura was dropped as a seperate model in the Pontiac line. It was still available as a trim option on the Catalina. Small badges identified the Catalinas with the Ventura package. Starting in 1966 Pontiac again started promoting the Ventura, almost like it was again a separate model. Larger Ventura nameplates replacing the Catalina ones. But, it was still really only an option package available still on some Catalina body styles. This stayed true until 1971 when Pontiac replaced it with the Catalina Brougham. A model that was list separate line from the plain Catalinas.

Scott

[Exotics_Builder]

The impression I've got is Moebius will eventuly offer both a Ventura and a Catalina. There's not a lot of difference between the two. Mainly slightly nicer interior trim on the Ventura. In fact, the next year, 1962, the Ventura was dropped as a seperate model in the Pontiac line. It was still available as a trim option on the Catalina. Small badges identified the Catalinas with the Ventura package. Starting in 1966 Pontiac again started promoting the Ventura, almost like it was again a separate model. Larger Ventura nameplates replacing the Catalina ones. But, it was still really only an option package available still on some Catalina body styles. This stayed true until 1971 when Pontiac replaced it with the Catalina Brougham. A model that was list separate line from the plain Catalinas.

Scott

They indicated they were doing a Ventura and a Catalina.

[Art Anderson]

OK, NOW I can reveal the "Mystery" feature of the '61 Ventura kit! Of all the models of Pontiacs having the 8-Lug wheels, NOBODY has ever done one correctly. It was something that got discussed at great lengths, and Moebius has done it:

Correct 3-piece 8-lugs! Brake drum, SEPARATE rim with lug detailing, AND a separate plated hubcap! YESS!

Art

[Joe Handley]

No wonder I didn't notice anything out of the ordinary about the test shot on display today, that's cool!

[BrianC]

Well that's great news about the drums and wheels - just makes me want it more......

Brian

[ChrisBcritter]

No wonder I didn't notice anything out of the ordinary about the test shot on display today, that's cool!

That must mean they did a very good job indeed! Three pieces... Now does this mean the front half of the wheel is a rim with eight lugs around it, and the back half of the rim is molded together with the brake drum? It sounds like the way the custom wheels for the AMT '32 Ford Tudor from the double kit were molded.

Edited October 3, 2014 by ChrisBcritter

[Danno]

OK, NOW I can reveal the "Mystery" feature of the '61 Ventura kit! Of all the models of Pontiacs having the 8-Lug wheels, NOBODY has ever done one correctly. It was something that got discussed at great lengths, and Moebius has done it:

Correct 3-piece 8-lugs! Brake drum, SEPARATE rim with lug detailing, AND a separate plated hubcap! YESS!

Art

Awesome!!!

That's great news.

[mnwildpunk]

Any pix of the test shot?

[DaveM]

Were the wheels (Minus the hubcaps) the same as the 1962 Pontiac 421 SD? Thinking about building a 1961 Street Machine with mags to match a car I have seen. If I do that, I could upgrade the wheels on the '62 with the leftovers.