lordairgtar Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 Somebody explain to me why the door panel lines on this kit stick out from the surface instead of being recessed. The only possible "reason" I can come up with is a massive brain freeze on the part of the people who cut the tooling. Even back in the Stone Age when this kit was tooled, door panel lines didn't stick up from the surface!Maybe they hired Airfix mold designers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry P. Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 A couple of people have described how it's much easier to cut the tooling so that the resulting plastic part comes out of the mold with a raised panel line rather than with a correct recessed panel line. Well, of course it's easier! That's the point I was trying to make... they cut corners and took the easy way out. No wonder Pyro kits have such a stellar reputation... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peteski Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 (edited) A couple of people have described how it's much easier to cut the tooling so that the resulting plastic part comes out of the mold with a raised panel line rather than with a correct recessed panel line. Well, of course it's easier! That's the point I was trying to make... they cut corners and took the easy way out. No wonder Pyro kits have such a stellar reputation... Um, I wouldn't be so hard on them. As others have also repeatedly mentioned, majority of companies making injection-molded styrene model kits used raised details to represent panel lines in their kits (cars, armor, airplanes, etc). That was the de-facto way of doing things - not cutting corners. Just like with everything, manufacturing methods and techniques improve with time. Actually automotive models were probably the first type of models to break that mold . Aircraft models continued to have raised panel lines for many years after all car models converted to engraved panel lines. There are probably still some small manufacturers who still have raised panel lines on their models. Edited October 28, 2015 by peteski Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclescott58 Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 I started working on the Lindberg Auburn I got over the weekend. I'm much more impressed with this kit than I expected to be. My only complaint is the raised door lines. And even that is not as bad as it could be. I've seen a lot worst. I'll be leaving them be. The more I look at and play around with this kit, the more I like it. Shouldn't have stayed away from it for so long. Better than the old Pyro/Lindberg Cord. And I recently picked up the Cord. It's not as nice as the Monogram version. But, it's no where nearly as bad as a lot of people claim it is. I'm impressed enough with both the old Pyro/Lindberg Auburn and the Cord to have ordered the Pyro/Lindberg Lincoln. Scott Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnt671 Posted February 13, 2017 Author Share Posted February 13, 2017 (edited) I still haven't one anything with this kit. I've learned more since I bought it, and I think I can do a good job on it now. Maybe I'll start on it in the spring so I can paint it. I still have the old school Hemi saved for it. I'd normally build cars from the 50's and 60's, but I've done a few old car builds over the winter, and I've enjoyed building the. No BMF = : ). Edited February 13, 2017 by Johnt671 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace-Garageguy Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 I started working on the Lindberg Auburn I got over the weekend. I'm much more impressed with this kit than I expected to be. My only complaint is the raised door lines. And even that is not as bad as it could be. I've seen a lot worst. I'll be leaving them be. The more I look at and play around with this kit, the more I like it. Shouldn't have stayed away from it for so long. Better than the old Pyro/Lindberg Cord. And I recently picked up the Cord. It's not as nice as the Monogram version. But, it's no where nearly as bad as a lot of people claim it is. I'm impressed enough with both the old Pyro/Lindberg Auburn and the Cord to have ordered the Pyro/Lindberg Lincoln. I agree with you entirely, Scott. All these kits can build up into nice models, and actually fit together pretty well.The only thing I find really not to my liking is that I believe (I have NOT measured) that the scaling may be a little off here and there. The Cord has some odd lines that don't exactly match the real car, as does the Auburn (though not as noticeable) and both the Auburn and Lincoln seem to be a little small for 1/25...but again, I have NOT measured. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjordan2 Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 The Monogram Cord phaeton (with a back seat) is the best of the bunch in this scale, along with the other Monogram classics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peteski Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 I bought that Auburn kit several years ago and considered building it. But just recently, after again looking over its flaws (mentioned above and also misshapen grille and few more things), I decided that it wasn't worth the trouble. Instead, I went on eBay and found myself a slightly damaged Franklin Mint diecast rendition of that car for a really good price. What a huge difference in appearance. The Franklin Mint model looks so much better! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnt671 Posted February 15, 2017 Author Share Posted February 15, 2017 I have to watch the parking lot at my house. This car belongs to the local judge, and shows up every year to get his taxes done, I hope the weather is is nice this year so I can get more. pictures. I think it's a kit car but I'm not sure, but some more pictures would help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
64Comet404 Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 I have to watch the parking lot at my house. This car belongs to the local judge, and shows up every year to get his taxes done, I hope the weather is is nice this year so I can get more. pictures. I think it's a kit car but I'm not sure, but some more pictures would help. It looks like one of the kit cars which used to be available. I had a neighbour who owned one of these cars, and put a lot of money into upgrading the engine and other bits. He ended up selling it, and his other collector car, when he and his wife moved back into the city. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Macleod Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 This Is Most definately a kit car, and quite a nice one. Typically the wheel and tire combination are a dead give-away as are the external exhaust pipes on the drivers side. The same holds true for Duesenberg replicas. If you see pipes on the driver's side it ain't a real Auburn or Duesenberg. The same is not true of Cords which were V8, not straight 8 powered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Bartrop Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 This Is Most definately a kit car, and quite a nice one. Typically the wheel and tire combination are a dead give-away as are the external exhaust pipes on the drivers side. The same holds true for Duesenberg replicas. If you see pipes on the driver's side it ain't a real Auburn or Duesenberg. The same is not true of Cords which were V8, not straight 8 powered. Actually, the real Auburn speedsters have them on the driver's side, though an extra set on the passenger side is a dead giveaway that it's a replica. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Macleod Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 I stand corrected. Sorry, Duesenbergs are my area of expertise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Bartrop Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 Is it me, or does it sit a little lower than a stock Speedster. Not that it isn't a fine looking machine in its own right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tim boyd Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 Here's a real one from the Concours of the Americas at St. John's last summer.... TIM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclescott58 Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 Beautiful ☝️Scott Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace-Garageguy Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 A little rougher... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisBcritter Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 (edited) Wow! Right-hand drive, too. Where's that one, South America, Africa or Australia? Edited March 8, 2017 by ChrisBcritter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace-Garageguy Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 Wow! Right-hand drive, too. Where's that one, South America, Africa or Australia? In the Philippines when that shot was taken. She's since been restored. Full story here...http://theoldmotor.com/?p=158210 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnt671 Posted March 9, 2017 Author Share Posted March 9, 2017 I unrestored car shows the lines of the car better than the finished ones. What a sweet looking car they were. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blunc Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 Hmmmm, a 32 Ford Vicky body... add the grille from the Auburn... blend until smooth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace-Garageguy Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 Hmmmm, a 32 Ford Vicky body... add the grille from the Auburn... blend until smooth Or a mashup with a '34-ish Ford pickup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Bartrop Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 Or if you wanted something more traditional, here's a couple of Fords with boattails grafted to them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keyser Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 36 roof for the back of the cab. You're a sick man, Bill, I love it. This and the transporter are 2 faves. I do it too, guess the part and where I put it isn't where it was meant to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Anderson Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 I bought that Auburn kit several years ago and considered building it. But just recently, after again looking over its flaws (mentioned above and also misshapen grille and few more things), I decided that it wasn't worth the trouble. Instead, I went on eBay and found myself a slightly damaged Franklin Mint diecast rendition of that car for a really good price. What a huge difference in appearance. The Franklin Mint model looks so much better!If I didn't say it before here, that Lindberg/Life-Like/Pyro Auburn 851 Speedster is a very good example of just how primitive model car kits (and the design/tooling process that brought them to market) was in 1954 when that kit was designed and tooled up (first introduced in 1055).Art Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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