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46 minutes ago, The Junkman said:

My list isn't long but it is fervent:

'67-68 Mustang notchback.  It far outsold the fastback (still my favorite body style of any car-full stop) but they were everywhere and had most of of the options of the f/b.  Shelby Trans Am cars, anyone?

An up to date 68-69 Torino.  A hardtop would be great but even a fastback would be awesome.  Add to that a wish for the 68-69 Mercury Cyclone.  Dan Gurney/Cale Yarborough editions.

Now for a laugh: an AMC Rebel Machine.  In real life a day late and a dollar short but unique lines and color scheme.

These are remote possibilities. Round 2 or Revell could perhaps tool up notchback bodies for their existing ‘67-‘68 kits. The ‘69 Torino fastback is still with Round 2 I believe. The Rebel Machine is probably farther off. The Jo Han kit can still be found, as pricy as it might be.

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All these in 1/25 scale

1968 Dodge Coronet Superbee

1968 Dodge Coronet R/T

1969 Dodge Coronet R/T

1969 Dodge Coronet Superbee

1971 Dodge Charger Superbee

1968 Mercury Cyclone

1968 Ford Galaxie

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Posted

A proper 1970 Duster (340) requires more than a mere grille swap :

- Different upholstery pattern

- Different stripes 

- AVS carburetor 

- Turn-down exhaust 

- Different passenger-side exhaust manifold 

Of all of those , the upholstery pattern would present the biggest challenge .

I would like to see Round2 backdate their 1971 model to a 1970 ; including optional period-correct aftermarket wheels ( *cough* Spyders *cough) ; a non-A/C setup ;  brake booster ; "correct" Six  Barrel   air cleaner decal (for the nice , optional 3x2 induction ) ; headers ; a gang of new decals ; and better windscreen , backlite , and quarter windows  (and , in the process , get rid of those abhorrent moulded-on wipers that look like lumps of dog scat !)  .

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1970 G.M. A-bodies --- goes without saying that the Monogram tooling 1970 SS-454 is quite long in the tooth ! It was okay back in 1982 -- and the Baldwin-Motion version offered nice upgrades and a revised interior -- but it's mediocre at best . The AMT version ? Better than the Monogram version , but... At least backdate that tooling to a 1971 , and toss a brake master cylinder in there while they're at it .

Posted
2 hours ago, The Junkman said:

My list isn't long but it is fervent:

'67-68 Mustang notchback.  It far outsold the fastback (still my favorite body style of any car-full stop) but they were everywhere and had most of of the options of the f/b.  Shelby Trans Am cars, anyone?

An up to date 68-69 Torino.  A hardtop would be great but even a fastback would be awesome.  Add to that a wish for the 68-69 Mercury Cyclone.  Dan Gurney/Cale Yarborough editions.

Now for a laugh: an AMC Rebel Machine.  In real life a day late and a dollar short but unique lines and color scheme.

It would seem to be a pretty easy tool modification from the 67 fastback into to a coupe and convertible.  Who would have thought we would see a 69/70 Shelby ragtop so there is always hope.

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One thing that neds to be taken into consideration the older toolong was designed to support one version of a kit. If that was to be changed then that tooling had to be irreversiblly modified. Newer tooling Revell 32 fords, 57 checy , and 57 ford were all designed to allow different versions by changing the body segment of the tooling.  The multiple version tooling is a necessity becuse of the much lower volumes being produced.

Posted
11 hours ago, 1972coronet said:

A proper 1970 Duster (340) requires more than a mere grille swap :

- Different upholstery pattern

- Different stripes 

- AVS carburetor 

- Turn-down exhaust 

- Different passenger-side exhaust manifold 

Of all of those , the upholstery pattern would present the biggest challenge .

I would like to see Round2 backdate their 1971 model to a 1970 ; including optional period-correct aftermarket wheels ( *cough* Spyders *cough) ; a non-A/C setup ;  brake booster ; "correct" Six  Barrel   air cleaner decal (for the nice , optional 3x2 induction ) ; headers ; a gang of new decals ; and better windscreen , backlite , and quarter windows  (and , in the process , get rid of those abhorrent moulded-on wipers that look like lumps of dog scat !)  .

_______________________________________________________________________________________________

1970 G.M. A-bodies --- goes without saying that the Monogram tooling 1970 SS-454 is quite long in the tooth ! It was okay back in 1982 -- and the Baldwin-Motion version offered nice upgrades and a revised interior -- but it's mediocre at best . The AMT version ? Better than the Monogram version , but... At least backdate that tooling to a 1971 , and toss a brake master cylinder in there while they're at it .

Thank you- that's a handy list! I intend to build a '70 Duster 340, like one I saw many years ago that was somebody's driver in the mid-80's in northern Delaware. It was orange, with a bench seat, floor mounted manual trans, dog dish wheel covers, no stripes, and tiny "Valiant Duster 340" decals on the fenders. Even as a teen with no driver's license, I knew that car was something special.    

I'm not sure that the carb in the Duster 340 kit represents a '71 style ThermoQuad- actually, I'm not sure it really represents anything.

& I'm not 100% sure, but I think the 340 that comes in the Duster Street Machine comes with the non-a/c fan belt set up.

Posted
11 hours ago, CapSat 6 said:

I'm not sure that the carb in the Duster 340 kit represents a '71 style ThermoQuad- actually, I'm not sure it really represents anything.

I've always painted that single four barrel to 'look' like a T-Quad by replicating the black plastic bowl .

& I'm not 100% sure, but I think the 340 that comes in the Duster Street Machine comes with the non-a/c fan belt set up.

You are correct ;  no A/C setup on the 'Street Machine' version . Too bad that Round2 didn't include that in the reissue ---- a "real" Six Barrel arrangement wouldn't work with that big old York RV-2 compressor .

 

Posted

I would like to see a new Plymouth Fury, 1965 model, if not all of the '62 to '68 versions.

The Jo-Han molds are presumably now lost, and obviously second hand kits/promos are next to none, or very few at a premium price.

 

Posted

I have a real desire to see a '63 Pontiac Catalina or Bonneville 421 Super Duty and maybe a 64/65 Olds F-85.  Both were original annual kits and I imagine the tools have been modified (the 63 into a 64) and I believe the Olds was turned into a topless funny car.  Still would like to see them resurrected.

Posted
1 hour ago, TarheelRick said:

I have a real desire to see...a 64/65 Olds F-85.  I believe the Olds was turned into a topless funny car.  

I think several resincasters offer repops of the '64 Cutlass. Model Car World has a resin '65 4-4-2. I have one and it's very nice--well worth its reasonable price. I'm looking forward to building it sometime soon. 

Posted
1 hour ago, Snake45 said:

I think several resincasters offer repops of the '64 Cutlass. Model Car World has a resin '65 4-4-2. I have one and it's very nice--well worth its reasonable price. I'm looking forward to building it sometime soon. 

I've got a resin repop of the '64 Cutlass stillborn WIP which I will finish up hopefully before the year is out. I believe it was made by P&P?? I had a series of hood mishaps which nearly caused me to shelve it forever, but I think I got that licked now with a genuine plastic one.

Other things are getting in the way right now in finishing it, so it'll be awhile. ;)

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On 4/11/2019 at 8:50 PM, 1972coronet said:

A proper 1970 Duster (340) requires more than a mere grille swap :

- Different upholstery pattern

- Different stripes 

- AVS carburetor 

- Turn-down exhaust 

- Different passenger-side exhaust manifold 

Of all of those , the upholstery pattern would present the biggest challenge .

I would like to see Round2 backdate their 1971 model to a 1970 ; including optional period-correct aftermarket wheels ( *cough* Spyders *cough) ; a non-A/C setup ;  brake booster ; "correct" Six  Barrel   air cleaner decal (for the nice , optional 3x2 induction ) ; headers ; a gang of new decals ;              and better windscreen , backlite , and quarter windows  (and , in the process , get rid of those abhorrent moulded-on wipers that look like                    lumps of dog scat !)  .

 

1972 Cornet is on point. It will take more than a grill whop out to make a proper `70 Duster. Since the `70 version of the Duster is a subject that's never been attempted that is exactly why it would be an  excellent candidate for a new kit. Round2 backdating the `71 to a `70 is a smart approach. Additionally, the "six barrel" 3x2 induction 340 setup as well as the "spider wheels" is a bitching idea. Round2 should also consider tossing in a slant 6 so there is a "main streamer" build option.

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Posted
5 hours ago, Wm David Green said:

I would like to see a new Plymouth Fury, 1965 model, if not all of the '62 to '68 versions.

The Jo-Han molds are presumably now lost, and obviously second hand kits/promos are next to none, or very few at a premium price.

 

I agree......but not likely.

It's funny, but when you think about it, there are ZERO currently available, (non-vintage, annual) Plymouth fury kits!

You would think that one of Plymouth's historically most popular models would be represented by at least one model year!

The same unfortunate trend is evident with many other very popular models. ( Dodge Polara, Pontiac Bonneville, any large Olds, Buick or Mercury, and forget about Cadillac or Lincoln)

Luckily, I have at least one example of every Johan Fury between the years of 1959 and 1967.

Get them while you can, because it's quite obvious that NOBODY has had any interest in producing a Fury of any kind since Johan's demise.

 

Working on a '65 Fury right now! ;)

 

 

Steve

Posted
52 minutes ago, 69NovaYenko said:

1972 Cornet is on point. It will take more than a grill whop out to make a proper `70 Duster. Since the `70 version of the Duster is a subject that's never been attempted that is exactly why it would be an  excellent candidate for a new kit. Round2 backdating the `71 to a `70 is a smart approach. Additionally, the "six barrel" 3x2 induction 340 setup as well as the "spider wheels" is a bitching idea. Round2 should also consider tossing in a slant 6 so there is a "main streamer" build option.

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A Slant Six version would be fairly easy , even with the existing 1971 kit . The instruments are different , as the 318 and Slant series had the regular models' "boxed" speedo ---- a piece easily and readily gotten from the MPC 1975 Dart Sport . 

Not sure if anyone makes a resin 904 trans or even a 3-speed manual --- while not completely accurate , the 4-speed from the 340 could be used , and the 727-G trans from the Lindberg kits could be used .

Posted
On 4/11/2019 at 11:42 PM, bobthehobbyguy said:

One thing that neds to be taken into consideration the older toolong was designed to support one version of a kit. If that was to be changed then that tooling had to be irreversiblly modified. Newer tooling Revell 32 fords, 57 checy , and 57 ford were all designed to allow different versions by changing the body segment of the tooling.  The multiple version tooling is a necessity becuse of the much lower volumes being produced.

Other than the spelling errors, this has been one of the best replies to this thread! 

One addition to add to older tooling being only designed to support one version of a kit especially when it comes to the AMT/MPC kits mentioned in the opening post, most if not all of those kits mentioned were annual kits so that tooling was modified for every year. That is why many of the reissues are of whatever year the last of that body was because those are the only molds to still exist. 

Also in reply to the opening post, sorry that those kits don't meet the high standards of more modern kits but that means more of them available for those of us that do like the older kits. I would almost bet the farm too that if something like a 70 Trans Am (which the old Monogram fits the bill for me just fine) or a kit of the 74-76 would be remolded, Round 2 would be using the underpinnings from the long in the tooth 79 Trans Am since all the GM F bodies were built on the same platform from 1970 to 1981. 

Posted

There are sooooo many to choose from but I'll start with 5- (all in 1/25 scale)

1. 1970 Javelin SST

2. Any 1973-77 Colonnade model

3. 1971 Challenger R/T (highly optioned)

4. 1967 GS 340 Skylark 

5. 1968 W-nose Mercury Cyclone GT or SJ

 

That list would keep me busy for awhile but there are sooooo many more to list also. 

Posted

At least one idea called out in this thread is actually likely to happen based on what I heard in the fairly recent past.    

Two other suggestions mentioned in the thread above - an all-new and correct 1971 [Boss 351] Mustang and either a 1967 or 1968 Mustang notchback were under consideration at various times in the past, based on rumblings I've heard from trusted outside  sources  (i.e., sources not within the model companies).  

Given the different situation with kitmakers today, I don't think the chances of either of these materializing are very likely, but from my point of view, the 1971 Boss 351 is among the most under sung Mustangs of all time in both 1/1 and 1/25th scale.   

TIM 

Posted
On 4/16/2019 at 12:27 AM, Sledsel said:

It will never ever happen, but.............. 

 

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My neighbor has a '72 Torino GT in his garage. Totaled, but he has one. 

Posted
1 hour ago, tim boyd said:

At least one idea called out in this thread is actually likely to happen based on what I heard in the fairly recent past.    

Two other suggestions mentioned in the thread above - an all-new and correct 1971 [Boss 351] Mustang and either a 1967 or 1968 Mustang notchback were under consideration at various times in the past, based on rumblings I've heard from trusted outside  sources  (i.e., sources not within the model companies).  

Given the different situation with kitmakers today, I don't think the chances of either of these materializing are very likely, but from my point of view, the 1971 Boss 351 is among the most under sung Mustangs of all time in both 1/1 and 1/25th scale.   

TIM 

Even though it didn't make my list, I concur the `71 Mustang is  one of the truly unsung Mustangs. If my memory services me correctly the only1/25 kit of this subject was released by AMT way back in the day. It would be nice to see a fresh resurrection of this subject. In fact for the past three years there`s a 1:1 Dark Green `71 Mustang 351 Boss that's been sitting on the parking lot a of a car restoration garage that`s a stones throw from my backdoor. It`s in truly TRAGIC shape. I only assume whoever owns  it will be eventually pull the trigger and start restoring it someday.

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