CapSat 6 Posted May 16, 2019 Posted May 16, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, slusher said: I still think we have a chance we might see a Matador again." My understanding is that the Matador body tool is actually shared with the Bobby Allison "Stock" (Race) Car kit. They had to wipe the stock details from the body to bring the race car back some years ago (or perhaps that was the last state in which the body tool was in from the '70's). The race car and stock kits shared their basic body, chassis, & engine. The kits differed in the wheel/ tire, interior, exhaust, engine and engine room pieces they provided with each kit. IF Round 2 wanted to, they could restore the stock details, but then it would hamper their ability to reissue the race car, which they have put out at least 3 times since the '90's. I do remember picking one of the later issues of the race car up, and a stock grille was included in the chrome shot (along with the race grille, which was an unplated piece on another sprue). The first reissue of the race car did not come with the stock grille, it looks like the gates were opened up some time after that first reissue from the early '90's. I guess if I ran Round 2, I would run the race car again once or twice with Retro box art under a "one (or two) run (runs) of fun" deal, then I would have the stock stuff restored to the body, IF the tools for the stock interior, stock wheels, custom parts and engine room could be found. In my opinion, it's almost always easier for a modeler to make a stock body into a race body, than the reverse, and most of the time, a given model manufacturer's race body might differ from how it appeared in real life, which might necessitate further mods, so I'd rather see the stock body details on this one. The stock/ custom Matador kit would make a great companion piece to the Gremlin & Pacer kits we have seen lately. Edited May 16, 2019 by CapSat 6 More/ accurate info
slusher Posted May 16, 2019 Posted May 16, 2019 2 hours ago, CapSat 6 said: My understanding is that the Matador body tool is actually shared with the Bobby Allison "Stock" (Race) Car kit. They had to wipe the stock details from the body to bring the race car back some years ago (or perhaps that was the last state in which the body tool was in from the '70's). The race car and stock kits shared their basic body, chassis, & engine. The kits differed in the wheel/ tire, interior, exhaust, engine and engine room pieces they provided with each kit. IF Round 2 wanted to, they could restore the stock details, but then it would hamper their ability to reissue the race car, which they have put out at least 3 times since the '90's. I do remember picking one of the later issues of the race car up, and a stock grille was included in the chrome shot (along with the race grille, which was an unplated piece on another sprue). The first reissue of the race car did not come with the stock grille, it looks like the gates were opened up some time after that first reissue from the early '90's. I guess if I ran Round 2, I would run the race car again once or twice with Retro box art under a "one (or two) run (runs) of fun" deal, then I would have the stock stuff restored to the body, IF the tools for the stock interior, stock wheels, custom parts and engine room could be found. In my opinion, it's almost always easier for a modeler to make a stock body into a race body, than the reverse, and most of the time, a given model manufacturer's race body might differ from how it appeared in real life, which might necessitate further mods, so I'd rather see the stock body details on this one. The stock/ custom Matador kit would make a great companion piece to the Gremlin & Pacer kits we have seen lately. I forgot all about that. Your right it's easier to make a stock body into a race car then the reverse. Thanks...
CapSat 6 Posted May 16, 2019 Posted May 16, 2019 1 hour ago, fairlane1320 said: Man- wouldn't THAT be nice to have back!!! I wonder if there is a tooling insert that could be used on their fastback body to recreate this? Other than the '69 Cobra Fastback we saw back in the '90's, what might be left of this one???
stavanzer Posted May 16, 2019 Posted May 16, 2019 My Matador Race Car has the Stock Grill in it. I can see where it shares some parts with the stock kit. It would be nice to have it back as the Street Car.
Snake45 Posted May 16, 2019 Posted May 16, 2019 1 hour ago, CapSat 6 said: Man- wouldn't THAT be nice to have back!!! I wonder if there is a tooling insert that could be used on their fastback body to recreate this? Other than the '69 Cobra Fastback we saw back in the '90's, what might be left of this one??? Motor City Resin makes a beautiful '69 hardtop body to convert the fastback Cobra kit. I recommend it highly.
JohnU Posted May 16, 2019 Posted May 16, 2019 10 hours ago, ChrisBcritter said: Still there -Try this: https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_ftrt=901&_fsradio=%26LH_SpecificSeller%3D1&_sop=10&_sadis=15&_byseller=1&_stpos=60062-7542&_odkw=&_saslop=1&_fss=1&_dmd=1&_sofindtype=0&_sasl=vintagemodelcarparts&_osacat=0&_ftrv=1&_from=R40&_trksid=p2045573.m570.l1313.TR12.TRC2.A0.H0.Xmalibu.TRS0&_nkw=malibu&_sacat=0 Don’t know what the problem is on my end but clicked the link and I got a naked Malibu Ken doll!??
StevenGuthmiller Posted May 16, 2019 Posted May 16, 2019 1 hour ago, JohnU said: Don’t know what the problem is on my end but clicked the link and I got a naked Malibu Ken doll!?? Woo Hoo!!! Barbie porn!! Steve
fredo84 Posted May 17, 2019 Posted May 17, 2019 On 5/16/2019 at 1:03 PM, slusher said: I still think we have a chance we might see a Matador again." I really hope that THEY read you !!!
Bob Ellis Posted May 17, 2019 Posted May 17, 2019 I think the demographics are guaranteeing that some models will never return. Young kids don't care. I remember waiting for the new cars to arrive. that doesn't happen any more. If you could combine a model kit with and electronic or computer toy?
tim boyd Posted May 17, 2019 Posted May 17, 2019 On 5/14/2019 at 9:32 AM, Mr. Metallic said: What makes you so sure? If you're talking about the original version Mach 1 you have pictured here, then yes, you may be right. Since it was modified into 3 other versions after this, at least the last version should still be viable though (I think it was the Autolite Special, but I could be wrong) Really wish I could get my hands on a set of the Mach 1 version wheels though. They are sweet. Craig.....you are exactly correct. My guess is that this one (in its later form) has a better than 50/50 chance of being reissued at some point in the future......TIM
Brian Austin Posted May 18, 2019 Posted May 18, 2019 Aurora Chitty Chitty Bang Bang. https://www.ebay.com/itm/Aurora-Chitty-Chitty-Bang-Bang-Model-Kit-1968-Movie-Tie-In-with-Instructions-/131980329740?_trksid=p2349526.m4383.l44720.c10&nordt=true&rt=nc&orig_cvip=true
Greg Myers Posted May 19, 2019 Author Posted May 19, 2019 22 hours ago, Straightliner59 said: These guys: Be still my heart
jefropas Posted May 23, 2019 Posted May 23, 2019 No pics, but the AMT 1967 Ford Custom...can't afford it when one pops up, or the 68' Dodge Coronet... Jeff
Trendsetta68 Posted May 25, 2019 Posted May 25, 2019 Here's one of my favorites that will never see the light of day again (as for mentioned, probably all of the Johan kits) .....
Trendsetta68 Posted May 25, 2019 Posted May 25, 2019 JM.02 but I think that a Javelin or an AMX is a very needed / overlooked subject matter ..... Lots of options with one of these being made ..... Just imagining an all new tooled box being opened for the first time (in the parking lot) and touching the new subject matter ... (sigh ) Those were the days ...
fredo84 Posted May 26, 2019 Posted May 26, 2019 19 hours ago, Trendsetta68 said: JM.02 but I think that a Javelin or an AMX is a very needed / overlooked subject matter ..... Lots of options with one of these being made ..... Just imagining an all new tooled box being opened for the first time (in the parking lot) and touching the new subject matter ... (sigh ) Those were the days ... Next Holly Grail after the AMT AMC Matador
disabled modeler Posted May 26, 2019 Posted May 26, 2019 (edited) On 5/18/2019 at 11:15 AM, Straightliner59 said: These guys: sadly I had all of these race scenes kits still unbuilt and many others before the tornado here...I had been collecting the kits I loved for 40+ years while I had money to but at least 75% of my collection of old kits...promos..and builds are gone now...got to try and restore/repair whats left. Here is some I would love to see or get again i know or highly doubt will never see the light of day again....shame too.... MPC 67,68,69 Bonnevilles MPC 69-72 Grand Prixs AMT 70/71 Pontiac Ventura/Sprint II Johan 67,68,69,70 Cadillac coupe devilles Johan 67,68,69,70 AMC Rebel...Ambassador...SSTs Johan 70/71 Maverick...Hornets AMT 66-69 Falcons AMT 70/71 Ford LTD 4 door HT Hubley 61 Ford 4 door wagon AMT 67-69 T-Birds MPC 75 Firebird AMT 66 Buick Skylark GS MPC 70,71 Cyclone Spoilers MPC 71-76 Dodge vans...pickups in there original version options. Johan 65,66 Chrysler 300s MPC 65,66 Dodge Monacos AMT 68,69 Implalas MPC 71,72 Impala/Caprices AMT/MPC Dodge Demon Johan 66-72 Toronados Johan/AMT 64-68 Chrysler Imperials AMT 60-63 Ford pickups Monogram large scale funny car Mean Maverick Monogram show rod Un-Real Roller IMC Touch Tone Terror with all the original versions MPC 1/20th Ford 2wd vans..custom/workshop/ambulance/window van. Normatt Winnebago motorhome Johan hearses....Hualin Hearse...Heavenly hearse...etc. There are too many that would be a huge blessing to see back out someday....make a lot of builders very happy if they ever could. Edited May 26, 2019 by disabled modeler
TarheelRick Posted May 26, 2019 Posted May 26, 2019 I only have two or three holy grail kits: 62 Ford Galaxie, 63 Pontiac Bonneville/Catalina, and any of the Chevrolet Apache pick-ups ( preferably 58/59).
Ron Hamilton Posted May 27, 2019 Posted May 27, 2019 On 5/12/2019 at 4:51 PM, vamach1 said: Well will never see this one again. Picked it up at a swap meet. Only missing the kit wheels and the gas caps which I have. Again?
vamach1 Posted May 27, 2019 Posted May 27, 2019 8 hours ago, Ron Hamilton said: Again? Lightning can strike twice.
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