ChrisBcritter Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 10 hours ago, StevenGuthmiller said: Seriously! I'm tacking a tail to my ass and moving in with you!! Steve Hop on, we'll both go! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOBLNG Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 One thing that bugs me is those Revell/Monogram boxes that open like a clamshell! they always want to tip over if they aren't on a large flat surface. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
89AKurt Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 52 minutes ago, NOBLNG said: One thing that bugs me is those Revell/Monogram boxes that open like a clamshell! they always want to tip over if they aren't on a large flat surface. DITTO that! Try stacking a bunch of those kits too. FYI: use Scotch tape at the corners, not masking tape. I've noticed many, if not all kits, don't include the steering shaft running through the engine compartment, with the steering box. Most of the time they have nice detail at the suspension, but there is this missing link. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobthehobbyguy Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 Ah the infamous donut boxes. Once you take the shrink wrap off they have no structural integrity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rbray47 Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 I usually cant get the lower radiator hoses attached. I either forget about then until it's too late, or I cant get them lined up correctly. Sometimes (if I remember) I use flexible tubing with stiff wire inside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldscool Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 15 hours ago, Rbray47 said: I usually cant get the lower radiator hoses attached. I either forget about then until it's too late, or I cant get them lined up correctly. Sometimes (if I remember) I use flexible tubing with stiff wire inside. This is one of my pet peeves as well. I can think of only 2 kits that I managed to get the lower hose on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike999 Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 20 hours ago, bobthehobbyguy said: Ah the infamous donut boxes. Once you take the shrink wrap off they have no structural integrity. Some foreign kitmakers have really stepped up their packaging. Like those 1/24 Model T kits (and others) from the Ukrainian company ICM. They come in a normal-looking box. But when you take off the lid, the box also has an attached inner lid. Those boxes are heavy-gauge and great for storing stuff after you build the kit. Some kitmakers also pack fragile parts in separate boxes inside the main box. The Chinese company Bronco did that with their 1/35 scale ZiL-131 truck. It has opening doors and hood. So the main body doesn't have much support, other than the sprue attached to it. Bronco put the body in a smaller, heavy-gauge box. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnslow Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 I usually staple the box ends to stiffen them up when I open a kit and it's floppy . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake45 Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 Just remembered another one: Seat belts laying crossed on the seat(s) in a perfect X. This is probably because I've seen a lot of otherwise nice old rebuildable glue bombs complicated by those hokey X plastic seats belts glued in so solid they ruin the upholstery. In my whole life I don't think I've ever gotten into a car where the seat belts were laid out in an X. And I SURE have never carefully arranged them that way when I got out! Today (and for the last several decades) the belts are on retractors and aren't on the seats at all when not being worn. Before that, they'd either slip down beside the seat (buckets) or just lay more or less back-to-front (benches). Or just fall in some random fashion if they were loose and limber enough. But carefully arranged in a perfect X? Never seen it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevenGuthmiller Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 3 hours ago, Snake45 said: Just remembered another one: Seat belts laying crossed on the seat(s) in a perfect X. This is probably because I've seen a lot of otherwise nice old rebuildable glue bombs complicated by those hokey X plastic seats belts glued in so solid they ruin the upholstery. In my whole life I don't think I've ever gotten into a car where the seat belts were laid out in an X. And I SURE have never carefully arranged them that way when I got out! Today (and for the last several decades) the belts are on retractors and aren't on the seats at all when not being worn. Before that, they'd either slip down beside the seat (buckets) or just lay more or less back-to-front (benches). Or just fall in some random fashion if they were loose and limber enough. But carefully arranged in a perfect X? Never seen it! That's a big reason why I never add seat belts to a project. Nobody ever used them back when I used to see cars from the '60s or 70s running around when I was young, so they got tucked into the seats. Nobody ever left their seat belts laying across the seats.........ever! Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peteski Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 10 hours ago, StevenGuthmiller said: That's a big reason why I never add seat belts to a project. Nobody ever used them back when I used to see cars from the '60s or 70s running around when I was young, so they got tucked into the seats. Nobody ever left their seat belts laying across the seats.........ever! Steve While I do not disagree that in everyday life people do not neatly arranged seat belts that way, but I seem to recall that I saw, multiple times, lap belts arranged in "X" pattern on seats in cars displayed in cars shows or cruise nights. So if you model a car at a car show, it is ok to model seat belts neatly arranged in the seat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plowboy Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 13 hours ago, StevenGuthmiller said: That's a big reason why I never add seat belts to a project. Nobody ever used them back when I used to see cars from the '60s or 70s running around when I was young, so they got tucked into the seats. Nobody ever left their seat belts laying across the seats.........ever! Steve Exactly! No one ever got out of a car, reached back in and neatly placed the seat belts before closing the door. It annoys me to see that on a full scale car at a show too! Until seat belt laws, they were tucked into the seats where they wouldn't be in the way and out of sight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slusher Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 14 hours ago, StevenGuthmiller said: That's a big reason why I never add seat belts to a project. Nobody ever used them back when I used to see cars from the '60s or 70s running around when I was young, so they got tucked into the seats. Nobody ever left their seat belts laying across the seats.........ever! Steve When the buzzers started staying on my dad buckled the driver seat and tucked it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOBLNG Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 55 minutes ago, slusher said: When the buzzers started staying on my dad buckled the driver seat and tucked it... I have gone up under the dash and yanked that annoying buzzer right out! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Geiger Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 My father was military and the US Army was a seat belt culture in the 1960s so from the time I remember all our cars had belts and we used them. And I carried on in life that way right up to today. As far as belts in models I usually put them in unless they are early cars, 1950s and earlier, modeled in their period. I try to make them fit the personality of the build. Here is the seat from my Volare messenger car. Belts are messy and random. And as said in this thread I didn’t do the end that would be on a retractor. Here’s a street rod I did with Model Car Garage photo etch buckles. Neatly placed, no retractors. Note that I add thickness to the buckle, a peeve of mine is those that don’t and the buckle just looks like a wafer! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake45 Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 I like what you did there, Tom. Here was a tough case where I tried to do something similar. '68 Javelin promo, with the belts molded into the seats and the seats molded into the tub. The belts were very faint to boot. Instead of trying to paint them, I cut the belts out of black vinyl tape. Tried to put a little "kink" in one of them for a little more candid look. Not perfect, but the best I could do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevenGuthmiller Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 12 hours ago, slusher said: When the buzzers started staying on my dad buckled the driver seat and tucked it... You must be talking much later than I remember. I don't remember any buzzers in any of my folks cars from when I was a kid. I didn't even know that my 1:1 '69 Grand Prix had rear seat belts until I ripped the back seat out a few years ago to find them under the seat in a sea of dust and gunk! Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slusher Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 8 minutes ago, StevenGuthmiller said: You must be talking much later than I remember. I don't remember any buzzers in any of my folks cars from when I was a kid. I didn't even know that my 1:1 '69 Grand Prix had rear seat belts until I ripped the back seat out a few years ago to find them under the seat in a sea of dust and gunk! Steve The one I remember was his 72 Monte Carlo and my mother’s 74 Vega... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucky Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 My dad's '73 Dodge pickup had a buzzer. He did the "Click-N-Tuck" procedure with the driver's belt. Somewhere along the line, automatic interlocks came out, making it necessary to click the belt before you could start the car. And how about the "Hangman" belts? The ones that automatically belted you up when you shut the door? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOBLNG Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 (edited) HEADS! Why can’t the kit manufacturers give us some proper locating pins on the heads instead of just some vague bumps. I always have to use the intake manifold as a gauge to get their positions correct. Usually I will wrap an elastic band around the four pieces to hold them until I can get the heads glued. I often don’t want to paint the manifold with the engine, and I don’t want to accidentally glue it in place either. Edited April 2, 2020 by NOBLNG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevenGuthmiller Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 1 hour ago, NOBLNG said: HEADS! Why can’t the kit manufacturers give us some proper locating pins on the heads instead of just some vague bumps. I always have to use the intake manifold as a gauge to get their positions correct. Usually I will wrap an elastic band around the four pieces to hold them until I can get the heads glued. I often don’t want to paint the manifold with the engine, and I don’t want to accidentally glue it in place either. Ain't that the truth! You pretty much have to glue the block, heads and intake all together in one shot if you want them aligned properly. Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slusher Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 3 hours ago, Bucky said: My dad's '73 Dodge pickup had a buzzer. He did the "Click-N-Tuck" procedure with the driver's belt. Somewhere along the line, automatic interlocks came out, making it necessary to click the belt before you could start the car. And how about the "Hangman" belts? The ones that automatically belted you up when you shut the door? My 77 and 80 Dodge pickups buzzed for a few seconds then go out and was not a loud buzzer.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucky Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 I don't remember how long the buzzer lasted, but just a few seconds would have been enough to annoy my dad!! HAHAHA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucky Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, StevenGuthmiller said: Ain't that the truth! You pretty much have to glue the block, heads and intake all together in one shot if you want them aligned properly. Steve A side note to this one is that the two block halves don't line up flush with each other. One half sticks out far enough past the other one to be very noticeable, and makes the heads and intake not line up right. In those cases, I saw off the locator pins and slap the glue on and grip it with the clamps! Edited April 2, 2020 by Bucky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOBLNG Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 5 hours ago, Bucky said: A side note to this one is that the two block halves don't line up flush with each other. One half sticks out far enough past the other one to be very noticeable, and makes the heads and intake not line up right. In those cases, I saw off the locator pins and slap the glue on and grip it with the clamps! I’ve done that too. And then you’ve got to file the bottom flat so the oil pan doesn’t wobble.☹️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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