Chuckyg1 Posted October 2, 2020 Posted October 2, 2020 The scale auto website is being shut down on Oct. 9 & incorporated into FSM.
OldNYJim Posted October 3, 2020 Posted October 3, 2020 And the forum’s done too... “Dear Enthusiasts, As we incorporate scale-car modeling content more fully into FineScale Modeler, we have made the decision to shut down the Scale Auto website and Forum on Friday, October 9. Scale Auto subscribers will have access to subscriber-only content on FineScale.com, where you will find car, truck, and motorcycle kit reviews, along with how-to guides and building advice, and a continually growing selection of scale-car modeling stories. We invite you to sign up for the FineScale Modeler Forum where you can discuss your models and share your experiences. Thank you for supporting Scale Auto over the years, and I hope to see you over at FineScale Modeler. Regards, Tim Kidwell, editor”
OldNYJim Posted October 3, 2020 Posted October 3, 2020 On 10/3/2020 at 3:34 AM, Plowboy said: Was there anyone who didn't see this coming? Expand I’m not SUPER surprised - but you’d figure maybe that if it’s all up and running may as well leave it up there a while...if only because one of the perks of being an SA subscriber was meant to be having access to all the exclusive and extra content on the site for the lifetime of your subscription. Unless they plan on moving that stuff over, but I seem to recall there’s quite a bit of it on there...
Classicgas Posted October 3, 2020 Posted October 3, 2020 On 10/3/2020 at 3:34 AM, Plowboy said: Was there anyone who didn't see this coming? Expand Thinly veiled sarcasm. Maybe, but some of us hoped for the best. SAE was directly responsible for me getting back into the hobby in 92, and the forum was the first I joined. I am deeply saddened to see all of it gone.
Plowboy Posted October 3, 2020 Posted October 3, 2020 On 10/3/2020 at 1:19 PM, Classicgas said: Thinly veiled sarcasm. Maybe, but some of us hoped for the best. SAE was directly responsible for me getting back into the hobby in 92, and the forum was the first I joined. I am deeply saddened to see all of it gone. Expand Wasn't meant to be. It was also the first forum I joined and for a while, it was great. But, it didn't take long for Jim Haught to single handedly ruin it. That forum has had a stigma that couldn't be excised for years. With the magazine being absorbed by FSM, it's no surprise that the forum is being absorbed by FSM also.
Tom Geiger Posted October 3, 2020 Posted October 3, 2020 You’d think they’d keep the name alive online since Scale Auto is a valued trademark. It would have allowed them to still put out occasional content, and have the door open for it to come back as a digital magazine in the future.
StevenGuthmiller Posted October 3, 2020 Posted October 3, 2020 Well, I guess that's one more to scratch off of the list. Steve
Classicgas Posted October 3, 2020 Posted October 3, 2020 On 10/3/2020 at 2:19 PM, Plowboy said: Wasn't meant to be. It was also the first forum I joined and for a while, it was great. But, it didn't take long for Jim Haught to single handedly ruin it. That forum has had a stigma that couldn't be excised for years. With the magazine being absorbed by FSM, it's no surprise that the forum is being absorbed by FSM also. Expand My bad. Sorry. I agree about Haught.
89AKurt Posted October 3, 2020 Posted October 3, 2020 I was a dead tree edition subscriber last century, have had a few of my models published. But I never joined their forum, so have no clue what I'm missing. Just means more people will join this forum, with noted exception?
Plowboy Posted October 3, 2020 Posted October 3, 2020 On 10/3/2020 at 5:18 PM, Classicgas said: My bad. Sorry. I agree about Haught. Expand No problem Lee. No apology necessary.
64Comet404 Posted October 4, 2020 Posted October 4, 2020 On 10/3/2020 at 2:19 PM, Plowboy said: Wasn't meant to be. It was also the first forum I joined and for a while, it was great. But, it didn't take long for Jim Haught to single handedly ruin it. That forum has had a stigma that couldn't be excised for years. With the magazine being absorbed by FSM, it's no surprise that the forum is being absorbed by FSM also. Expand Jim Haught: Kalmbach's answer to John Dianna. Mind you, the current high foreheads at TEN have made Dianna look like a paragon of managerial restraint. I am saddened to see SA go down the way it did. I thought Tim Kidwell was doing a good job at bringing the magazine back to relevance. Unfortunately, Scale Auto was never a really good fit in the Kalmbach world of modelling generalists and geriatric train lovers.
carrucha Posted October 4, 2020 Posted October 4, 2020 The SA forum was the first modeling forum I joined. It was a really nice forum until they became very strict on content years ago. I found my posts edited from a couple of paragraphs to a couple of sentences by the moderators. I then decided to focus on this forum instead of SA. I would check out SA forum once in a while to find very little activity.
OldNYJim Posted October 4, 2020 Posted October 4, 2020 On 10/4/2020 at 3:00 AM, carrucha said: I found my posts edited from a couple of paragraphs to a couple of sentences by the moderators. Expand Me too! The editor would edit the posts as though it were the magazine ?. I’d find a little note at the bottom of a post saying “unnecessarily long post” or something ? Then they brought in the 3-picture rule, where you could only do 3 pictures per post (but could post multiple posts with additional pictures). Apparently the intention was to save bandwidth, so I figured I’d help by instead of posting, say, 9 photos, I’d edit them into a collage with 3 images each (with a combined smaller size than 9 singles) and post that instead Got an email one day saying I’d been banned for a month for “circumventing the 3-picture rule” ?
lordairgtar Posted October 4, 2020 Posted October 4, 2020 I remember when they (he) banned depictions of the General Lee car's roof decoration. I see this as kind of ironic since "He who shall not be named" was a bit Hitlerian about it, and that FSM still allows depiction of Nazi Swastikas on "supposedly historically accurate" war machinery. Hmmmm. I wonder if Fine Scale itself will allow that certain 69 Charger to be depicted with roof top in full view.
moparfarmer Posted October 4, 2020 Posted October 4, 2020 I've bought Scale Auto for many years and on their forum too..Fine Scale Modeler is good if you like tanks,planes and ships and belong to IPMS..They can stick their Fine Scale Modeler up their ying yang..I know Model Cars is in trouble and trying to get restarted but here and Spotlight is where it is at..
Bucky Posted October 4, 2020 Posted October 4, 2020 (edited) I was pretty sternly reprimanded by Jim Haught one time for merely posting my opinion in somebody else's thread. After that, I did more lurking than posting. I wonder how many others have done the same thing? Edited October 4, 2020 by Bucky
lordairgtar Posted October 4, 2020 Posted October 4, 2020 On 10/4/2020 at 4:54 AM, Bucky said: I was fairly sternly reprimanded by Jim Haught one time for merely posting my opinion in somebody else's thread. After that, I did more lurking than posting. I wonder how many others have done the same thing? Expand I once introduced myself to him at a model car event and he said he fully knew who I was. I must have rankled his feathers in the forum over the 69 Charger affair.
slusher Posted October 4, 2020 Posted October 4, 2020 On 10/3/2020 at 3:34 AM, Plowboy said: Was there anyone who didn't see this coming? Expand I really didn’t think about it so I am a little surprised. I remember when you told haught. I will not say how I feel about him but it’s not real alive over there like it once was. I just don’t see Fine Scale Modeler picking up the SAE subscribers....
StevenGuthmiller Posted October 4, 2020 Posted October 4, 2020 For the past year or so at least, it was a complete reversal on the SA forum. It was pretty much the wild wild west. You could virtually do or say anything you wanted. There was basically no moderation to speak of, and occasionally, it was apparent. Steve
Joe Handley Posted October 4, 2020 Posted October 4, 2020 (edited) I didn’t buy that magazine and left that forum over him a long time ago. IIRC, what pushed me over the edge was when he attacked somebody else for converting a Revell Civic SI kit to RWD because he felt it ruined Civics winter use by doing so?? Edited October 4, 2020 by Joe Handley
stitchdup Posted October 4, 2020 Posted October 4, 2020 I got banned from the forum for not spelling in American. I think the posts I got about that were "you're in America now so spell American". It didn't seem to register that I'm not in America
Classicgas Posted October 4, 2020 Posted October 4, 2020 Yeah Haught was a piece of work. I got banned for a couple months because I had the audacity to post a poll "should SA bring back the E?".
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