lordorion1974 Posted January 4, 2021 Posted January 4, 2021 Hey all, My internet searching has turned up zilch on finding this color. I'm building the Moebius Chrysler 300 for a friend at work and he sent me this paint chip/code that it is painted in. I can't pull the picture of the chip from my phone, but here is the pertinent information 1955 Heron Blue 60-7119 (Lac.) 90-3110 (Syn.) on the left of the chip are the following codes U.303 L.303 INS.304 Any help would be appreciated
espo Posted January 4, 2021 Posted January 4, 2021 Maybe MCW paints can get you the color you're needing.
lordorion1974 Posted January 4, 2021 Author Posted January 4, 2021 Thanks Espo, I've looked on his website and even autocolorlibrary.com and I can't even find the name listed under Dodge, Chrysler and Plymouth paint chips. It's a little baffling.
Miatatom Posted January 4, 2021 Posted January 4, 2021 Scale Finishes can mix just about any color but I didn't find that particular color listed. He might be able to help you though. http://scalefinishes.com/welcome.html
JollySipper Posted January 4, 2021 Posted January 4, 2021 You might could try Paintscratch.com, you can send them the color chip and they will match it for you.......
Snake45 Posted January 4, 2021 Posted January 4, 2021 Doesn't look like it would be too hard to mix up, if you had to. Also looks close to Model Master Chrysler Engine Blue, but of course that's gone bye-bye too.
Oldcarfan27 Posted January 4, 2021 Posted January 4, 2021 Looks like it's called Halo Blue and it's a Dizler paint code, you'll have to find somebody who can mix their formula. Otherwise, I'd say just mix it by eye to match the chip. Looks like a simple powder blue, shouldn't be too hard
Can-Con Posted January 4, 2021 Posted January 4, 2021 (edited) From what I'm reading "blue heron" and "green falcon" weren't colors but option packages ,,, can that be right? "Later in the model year another Newport was offered, with slightly modified trim borrowed from the 1955 New Yorker St. Regis. Depending upon the color ordered, these late versions were named "Green Falcon" or "Blue Heron" and came in 2 and 4-door versions. The 4-door sedans used the same trim package as the 2-door Newport." http://wildaboutcarsonline.com/members/AardvarkPublisherAttachments/9990549376637/1955_Chrysler_Info_1B.pdf The article dosen't say what exact shade of blue they were but the one pictured above looks like "stardust blue" and I see another one on the net that looks like either "glacier blue" or "turquoise" and the ones in the ads below look like "Mediterranean blue" and "surf green" poly, which are metallic colors. Edited January 4, 2021 by Can-Con
Richard Bartrop Posted January 4, 2021 Posted January 4, 2021 (edited) Going by that brochure, Humbrol #14 French Blue, or Model Master French Blue look like they would be close. Edited January 4, 2021 by Richard Bartrop
Cowpunk Posted January 4, 2021 Posted January 4, 2021 (edited) Big Picset here http://www.forwardlook.net/forums/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=46187 Edited January 4, 2021 by Cowpunk
lordorion1974 Posted January 5, 2021 Author Posted January 5, 2021 Thanks for the replies gentlemen, it's appreciated very much. From the pics he sent me, its definitely more of a blue than a turquoise shade. I'll do some more digging and see what I can come up with. I'll look into paints that come close to it and if i can't do that, well then I'm probably going to try and eyeball the mix as best as I can!
BeakDoc Posted January 6, 2021 Posted January 6, 2021 From the looks of it AMC Big Bad Blue might get you pretty darn close.
Claude Thibodeau Posted January 6, 2021 Posted January 6, 2021 Hi Aron! If you refer to the chips samples above, once you find the colour you want, give the numeric code next to the chip to your automotive paint house. Back then, enamel was the norm, and lacquer was an option on some upscale models. Therefore, in our era of base-coat/clear coat paints, your local shop will likely have to call the manufacturer (ex: PPG or Axalta) to CONVERT the code to a recipe that they can mix with their base colours. If they claim at the start "I can't do it", insist for the manager to call. Usually, they get the recipe from the manufacturer within 24 hours. Most shops can also sell you your mix in a spray can, made on the premises. Good luck! CT
gtx6970 Posted January 6, 2021 Posted January 6, 2021 Real 300 ? As far as I know. They were only avail in 3 colors, Black, red and white
StevenGuthmiller Posted January 6, 2021 Posted January 6, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, gtx6970 said: Real 300 ? As far as I know. They were only avail in 3 colors, Black, red and white I was curious of that fact as well. I initially questioned whether this was even a factory '55 color, but then realized that the OP had never stated whether the car, and subsequently the model, was a 300 or another model. But you are correct Bill. The 1955 C-300 was supposedly only available in "Black", "Platinum", (white) and "Tango Red". But, apparently there were a very few limited examples of '55 Chrysler 300s painted in special order colors. According to the "Chrysler 300 Club International" information that I found, the break down was as follows for '55. 1,177 cars were produced in "Platinum", 289 in "Black" and 247 in "Tango Red". But, according to the club's information, 2 were produced in "Jade Green Poly" (code 13), 2 in "Desert Sand" (code 21), One in "Embassy Gray Poly", (code 17) and One in "Canyon Tan", (code 20) There were 4 "mystery" cars of the 1,724 cars produced. One is listed as an unspecified "special order" Code 99, which apparently was tan in color. The other 3 were not listed, or lacked a code, so I suppose that there is a very thin possibility that one of them could have been painted in the "Heron Blue" specified by the OP. Steve Edited January 6, 2021 by StevenGuthmiller
vairnut Posted January 6, 2021 Posted January 6, 2021 MCW still does special mix colors - if they have the formula. If you call them with the factory paint code they will let you know if they can mix it. Just had a few special colors mixed by them that are not in the catalog list. I've had them do real obscure stuff so they have a very comprehensive reference for formulas. From the material I have the Desoto's used 300 numbers for color codes but there is no 303.
lordorion1974 Posted January 6, 2021 Author Posted January 6, 2021 (edited) Thanks again for the replies guys, very appreciated. Steve and GTX, yeah I was curious about it too, as Moebius specifies in the instructions that it was only available in black, red and white. I'm not one to argue, his car is blue and is a dead ringer for the model kit. I'll just build it and get it as close as possible to what the owner has. I can't do much more than that! Edit: Yeah, I was mistaken that he owns a 300, its definitely a 55 Windsor Deluxe. I can't seem to grasp that I can pinch and zoom on those photos to see things that are small. (My fault for that faux pas) So...yeah. Batting a thousand in this new year ?♂️ Edited January 6, 2021 by lordorion1974
StevenGuthmiller Posted January 6, 2021 Posted January 6, 2021 (edited) Well, just so you know, while the basic look of the Windsor is very close to the 300, the front end treatment is completely different, as well as the badging. If your friend is not terribly picky, I suppose it will be close enough. Windsor. 300. Steve Edited January 8, 2021 by StevenGuthmiller
Mike 1017 Posted January 8, 2021 Posted January 8, 2021 1955 Color Codes - Chrysler Paint Cross-Reference (paintref.com)
Dave G. Posted January 9, 2021 Posted January 9, 2021 MCW can now also match a chip with his spectrometer camera and come up with a formula via computer programing. Give him call or email, he's a friendly guy. He is also mixing enamels now so you can ask about that too.
charlie8575 Posted January 9, 2021 Posted January 9, 2021 (edited) I went straight to the experts. Keep an eye on this thread, more answers may develop. http://www.forwardlook.net/forums/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=75238&posts=2&start=1 Charlie Larkin Edited January 9, 2021 by charlie8575
lordorion1974 Posted January 11, 2021 Author Posted January 11, 2021 (edited) HA! I figured out how to take a screen shot off of my phone! I do know how to operate some technology... Here is the paint chip that he sent me, and a good picture of his Windsor. I asked him where he got the paint chip from, but I haven't heard from him in a week about it so...whatever. I'll just keep on modeling. Edited January 11, 2021 by lordorion1974 Editing of photos
charlie8575 Posted January 20, 2021 Posted January 20, 2021 On 1/11/2021 at 4:00 PM, lordorion1974 said: HA! I figured out how to take a screen shot off of my phone! I do know how to operate some technology... Here is the paint chip that he sent me, and a good picture of his Windsor. I asked him where he got the paint chip from, but I haven't heard from him in a week about it so...whatever. I'll just keep on modeling. Ah, I thought you were looking for the Spring Special package. He didn't happen to tell you what manufacturer (i.e., DuPont, Acme-Rogers, Ditzler-PPG, etc.) those came from? Charlie Larkin
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