Casey Posted January 30, 2021 Author Posted January 30, 2021 15 minutes ago, Venom said: Ok... well I don’t know my Country Squires very well, but it was close enough that I immediately recognized it?....So, what year is the one shown above? 1957. More info here:
cobraman Posted January 31, 2021 Posted January 31, 2021 Seems like most things that were changed was not for the better.
Fabrux Posted January 31, 2021 Posted January 31, 2021 (edited) Didn't this: End up as this? Edited January 31, 2021 by Fabrux
MrObsessive Posted January 31, 2021 Posted January 31, 2021 On 1/29/2021 at 10:27 PM, THarrison351 said: That's actually going to be a very near in the future WIP of mine. I'll be doing some changes though......let's say to make it a bit more "streetable".
Mark Posted January 31, 2021 Posted January 31, 2021 19 minutes ago, Fabrux said: Didn't this: End up as this? The first version issued was actually a NASCAR version. After the '77 annual, there was a custom-only version, then racing issues only. The stock trim was removed from tge body and other alterations were made, so it's unlikely the stock one will reappear.
ranma Posted January 31, 2021 Posted January 31, 2021 The International Transtar Series of kit's were Big sellers when kit's that were changed . While the '63 Nova wagon became the Boss Nova drag wagon, Round2 Brought the wagon back from the ashes, as they are doing to the '64 Oldsmobile . Then they went and are re doing the Transtar 4070 a. Remember the Mack Cruiseliner came back the same way from a kit that wasn't built!
Casey Posted January 31, 2021 Author Posted January 31, 2021 Started as this...: ...then became this:
Can-Con Posted January 31, 2021 Posted January 31, 2021 4 hours ago, Fabrux said: Didn't this: End up as this? I'm not sure about the timeline on that Chris but I do know the NASCAR version was in the AMT catalogue as early as '74 when that bodystyle started. The stock kit was available at the same time so?? According to the catalogue, the race version was out in March '74 and the stock version wasn't available until August.
64Comet404 Posted February 3, 2021 Posted February 3, 2021 On 1/31/2021 at 11:32 AM, Casey said: Started as this...: The "King T" also had a long string of changes over the years, though the changes have tended to be ...more aesthetically pleasing, shall we say, than what happened to the Wild Dream. Changed to the Carl Casper Paddy Wagon (much different than Monogram's), then the Fire Truck, then the Outcast, then back-dated to the Fire Truck. The Outcast was the least attractive, but it still wasn't that bad for the era.
Casey Posted February 3, 2021 Author Posted February 3, 2021 First issued as...: ...then later modified into:
Scott Colmer Posted February 4, 2021 Posted February 4, 2021 (edited) Great thread, Casey! I want to play too. Since I like showrods, I have a few makeovers in my stash. I might be wrong about these next two. These next few are not in order, but it is easy to sort them out. I'm not sure if the Yellowjacket is part of the 32 roadster's origins Sorry for the blur That's all for now. Edited February 4, 2021 by Scott Colmer
Scott Colmer Posted February 4, 2021 Posted February 4, 2021 One more because the story is good. The Surf Woody... Became the Horse Hide Hauler. According to the Showrods site, the name sake to this odd rod, Denny, McLain, was a baseball star who ran afoul of the law with racketeering and drug charges, obviously after the kit was released.
Mr. Metallic Posted February 4, 2021 Posted February 4, 2021 8 hours ago, Scott Colmer said: I'm not sure if the Yellowjacket is part of the 32 roadster's origins The Yellow Jacket is a 30-31 Model A roadster, so it is not the origin of any 32 Ford kit. It is actually a variant of the 6 in 1 Monogram Model A coupe/cabriolet tooling. To make the Yellow Jacket roadster version they just left the roof out of the kit. Original Sadly, all that remains of this once expansive tooling is now a stock only 5 window coupe
Snake45 Posted February 4, 2021 Posted February 4, 2021 9 hours ago, Scott Colmer said: One more because the story is good. The Surf Woody... Became the Horse Hide Hauler. According to the Showrods site, the name sake to this odd rod, Denny, McLain, was a baseball star who ran afoul of the law with racketeering and drug charges, obviously after the kit was released. I think before that, they got a "dune buggy" out of it, too.
Jantrix Posted February 4, 2021 Posted February 4, 2021 On 1/30/2021 at 5:14 PM, Daddyfink said: I'm not certain that Draggin Wagon "became" the Hangman. For certain they shared parts, but the rest of the model is so radically different that altering the molds to make another body would have been pointless. So very likely the Hangman used molds A and B from the Draggin Wagon, but then created new molds for the rest of the model. Also I believe the the Draggin Wagon was re-released as the Circus wagon just a few years ago.
Daddyfink Posted February 5, 2021 Posted February 5, 2021 9 hours ago, Jantrix said: I'm not certain that Draggin Wagon "became" the Hangman. For certain they shared parts, but the rest of the model is so radically different that altering the molds to make another body would have been pointless. So very likely the Hangman used molds A and B from the Draggin Wagon, but then created new molds for the rest of the model. Also I believe the the Draggin Wagon was re-released as the Circus wagon just a few years ago. From what I read, when they made the Hangman out of it, it was way to modified to make it the Dragon Wagon again, and lots of it had to be re-tooled.
Daddyfink Posted February 5, 2021 Posted February 5, 2021 The original was cool, and luckily, was not too heavily modified. They just added stuff to make.... The Vanbulance, which to be honest, I like more than the original.
slusher Posted February 5, 2021 Posted February 5, 2021 On 1/29/2021 at 6:14 PM, Oldcarfan27 said: First one I thought of... I have seen one vampire van built. That was a bad mistake..
slusher Posted February 5, 2021 Posted February 5, 2021 On 1/29/2021 at 8:01 PM, Oldcarfan27 said: Revell did the same with another one. I think it was better as the deluxe Kombi. First time I have seen or herd of the Rubber Duck other than a Mack..
Modelbuilder Mark Posted February 5, 2021 Posted February 5, 2021 On 1/29/2021 at 1:11 PM, Casey said: Kits which were irreversibly and heavily modified into something else, the latter of which may not necessarily be an improvement. While it's easy to look back in hindsight at what might've still been, the deed has been done in the name of putting a "new" kit on the shelf, and these altered kits are likely to never be returned to their previous state, much less ever re-issued in their current version. I think it was Mark B. who mentioned the AMT ZZR became the Firebug, so let's start with that one: It was this...: I have been trying to land one of these for a LONG time. On 1/29/2021 at 5:14 PM, Oldcarfan27 said: First one I thought of... This one is especially sad. Even over at Dave's Show Rod site where there are over 500 built models of various model show rods, both real and fantasy, there is not one single sample of this being built. Someone mentioned only ever seeing one completed, and that may possibly be one more than I have. I have one of the panel trucks in my my stash that is a partially started kit I picked up, that I will finish out at some point.
doorsovdoon Posted February 7, 2021 Posted February 7, 2021 I don't know much on this subject but I know the original Dodge Tradesman became the Bad Company van with a heavily updated front end and other alterations. I'm gutted as I want to build the Magic Bus that WLS Radio used for various promotions.
1972coronet Posted February 8, 2021 Posted February 8, 2021 18 hours ago, doorsovdoon said: I know the original Dodge Tradesman became the Bad Company van with a heavily updated front end and other alterations. Typical 'Annual' updates is all . By c.1979 , MPC showcased the customised version of the fill-in-the-blank annual ( e.g. , the 1979 Ford Econoline Van was called Sunrunner , and the stock parts were included ) :
doorsovdoon Posted February 8, 2021 Posted February 8, 2021 34 minutes ago, 1972coronet said: Typical 'Annual' updates is all . By c.1979 , MPC showcased the customised version of the fill-in-the-blank annual ( e.g. , the 1979 Ford Econoline Van was called Sunrunner , and the stock parts were included ) : The good thing about the Econoline is, as far as I know, body wise it remained unchanged. I think its the Coca Cola van now?
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