Mr. Metallic Posted April 11, 2022 Share Posted April 11, 2022 (edited) Now that Revell has shared official boxart and promotional materials for this kit (including a test shot) at the 2022 Milwaukee NNL I think it's time for this kit to get it's own thread New parts: Duvall style windshield Lakes style exhaust Traditional roll and pleat style interior Stock style hood top Edited April 11, 2022 by Mr. Metallic 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim B Posted April 11, 2022 Share Posted April 11, 2022 Looks interesting. Do you know if this shares any tooling with the '29 & '30 Model A hot rod kits? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Metallic Posted April 11, 2022 Author Share Posted April 11, 2022 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Jim B said: Looks interesting. Do you know if this shares any tooling with the '29 & '30 Model A hot rod kits? It does not. This tooling is from the series of 32 Ford that Revell/Monogram started back in 1996 with the 3 Window/Roaster/Speedwagon, and then continued with the Tudor sedan and lastly the 5 window coupe. However, the Rat Roaster, which became available in 2013 was all new tooling. But the tooling was designed for full compatibility with the previous 32 Fords. Edited April 11, 2022 by Mr. Metallic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr mopar Posted April 11, 2022 Share Posted April 11, 2022 Looks way better then the first issue , I like all the new parts !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey Posted April 11, 2022 Share Posted April 11, 2022 2 hours ago, Mr. Metallic said: This tooling is from the series of 32 Ford No, that was debunked when the rat Roaster debuted. @Brett Barrowdid a rather comprehensive comparison of the differences, IIRC. The Rat Roaster was designed using new tech, not old school 1/10 master buck and pattern work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Metallic Posted April 11, 2022 Author Share Posted April 11, 2022 2 hours ago, Mr. Metallic said: However, the Rat Roaster, which became available in 2013 was all new tooling. But the tooling was designed for full compatibility with the previous 32 Fords. 22 minutes ago, Casey said: No, that was debunked when the rat Roaster debuted. @Brett Barrowdid a rather comprehensive comparison of the differences, IIRC. The Rat Roaster was designed using new tech, not old school 1/10 master buck and pattern work. You left out the part where I said it was ALL NEW TOOLING. Even if they didn't use the same masters, the RR parts all work with the older R/M deuce series parts as far as interchangeability goes. That's the point I was trying to make Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis Lacy Posted April 11, 2022 Share Posted April 11, 2022 I’ve gone back and looked at the picture of the updated black model multiple times now. It’s incredible what a difference a handful of changes can make. It actually makes me want to build one box stock! I’ll be getting a pile of these kits for sure. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Kourouklis Posted April 11, 2022 Share Posted April 11, 2022 Kinda surprised they didn't take one from the Yenko-to-COPO Nova playbook and include the beam axle this kit has always needed, but hey, DuVall windshield sells it for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plowboy Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 I'm probably the only one that doesn't like the Duvall windshield. But, I just use them for parts. So, that doesn't matter. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afx Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 I'm not crazy about the Duvall either but like the look of the rest. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iBorg Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 This absolutely rocks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Ambrose Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 That looks very nice. I'll most likely get one as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Bartrop Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 It's nice to see that Revell's new owners haven't forgotten the American market. You're never going to please everyone, but it looks like a nice kit for someone who just wants a model of a hot rod, but doesn't want to fuss a lot over it, and it doesn't look like it will take a lot to turn it into something you do want. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Darby Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 This is really good. They took away all the negative gimmicks from the Rat Roaster, and added some cool stuff, I'm in for multiples. I do agree that a beam axle would have been nice though. Kitbash in the flatty from the Tudor sedan, and you're almost to the Doane Spencer roadster. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocking Rodney Rat Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 Add to new parts list: The body, which has been modified to accept the DuVall windshield. (no mounting divots on the side of the cowl to mount stock windshield). -RRR 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phildaupho Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 I am really looking forward to this kit being available. It's kind of funny - I have built built three Duval Deuce Roadsters - two using the cowl and Duval windshield from the AMT Phantom Vickie and one using the great Duval windshield and roof from Replicas & Miniatures so I will likely be inclined to use a different windshield when I eventually build this kit. I am really favoring like the custom So-Cal windshield. I managed to fabricate one a few years ago but would sure like to have one available in a kit or from the after-market. The owner of the real car now has that model so I could not even make a master. And yes I sure wish they could have mastered a new beam axle, even better a drilled beam axle. Maybe with the next revision !! I should mention the Model A kit beam axle has a wider track than the Deuce kit so if that is used a new or revised rear axle is needed. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickyD Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 They kept what was good about the Rat Roaster (wheels, tires, stock-ish firewall, etc.) and jettisoned the stuff that wasn't so good (interior, headers, hood with the goofy-looking Buick portholes.) Great job, Revell! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jantrix Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 On 4/11/2022 at 7:02 AM, Mr mopar said: Looks way better then the first issue , I like all the new parts !! I quite agree. I think if you Google "32 Ford hot rod", what you find should look a lot like this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plowboy Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 Wouldn't the beam axle from the '29-'30 kits be a drop in replacement for the tube axle? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickyD Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 9 minutes ago, Plowboy said: Wouldn't the beam axle from the '29-'30 kits be a drop in replacement for the tube axle? Pretty much, yep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickyD Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 I wonder where Revell might go next with this tooling. One thought I had is if they were to produce additional bodies to be used with it, they could be different versions of body styles they've already done. Imagine a chopped 3-window or chopped sedan body setting on this chassis. I'd be in for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phildaupho Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 44 minutes ago, Plowboy said: Wouldn't the beam axle from the '29-'30 kits be a drop in replacement for the tube axle? 35 minutes ago, RickyD said: Pretty much, yep. The Model A kit beam axle has a wider track than the Deuce kit so if that is used a new or revised rear axle is needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Hay Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 The duvall windshield makes this a great kit to build a Doane Spencer Roadster, to park next to my McGee on the shelf. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plowboy Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 1 hour ago, Phildaupho said: The Model A kit beam axle has a wider track than the Deuce kit so if that is used a new or revised rear axle is needed. The wider track is mostly due to the drum brakes. Eliminate those and the track should be about right. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phildaupho Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 51 minutes ago, Plowboy said: The wider track is mostly due to the drum brakes. Eliminate those and the track should be about right. The Model A beam axle is actually up to 7mm wider than the 32 Ford tube axle from hub to hub depending on how the brakes are mounted whether disc or drum as can be seen in the photo. I have used the Model A axle on two Deuce builds and in both cases had to make sure the rear axle was of the appropriate width. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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