CabDriver Posted April 17, 2022 Share Posted April 17, 2022 The Deuce is 90 years old this year, and I’d been wanting to build a Roadster from the Revell kit for a while, so here goes… I’m going for a super clean, traditionally-INFLUENCED build…probably not particularly accurate to what an early hot-rodder would’ve come up with but not the street rod on the box either. I’m thinking a Flathead, no Z to the frame at either end, and nothing too fancy or flashy - just all the stuff that makes a Deuce a Deuce. Started off with the frame…I’m actually going to use the one from the 29/30 Revell kits - but modified for a leaf spring. I didn’t have a spare Revell Model A frame to steal the crucial spring arch from, so I drew one up in CAD and printed a few: Whilst I was printing stuff, I printed a Matty’s Custom Scale Flathead Check out the detail on those heads! Gorgeous! I know I said no flashy stuff on this build…but those heads are SO nicely done… Next batch of parts was front and rear axles and some radiators for this and future projects: I really didn’t NEED to print any radiators, I’ve got a bunch of the kit ones, but I had the file sitting there and space on my print plate - they’re nicely done though! Rear axle mocked up with Elmer’s: I didn’t wanna run disk brakes on this car, and the GORGEOUS finned parts you find in the Revell Model A kits were a bit too fancy for what I had in mind, so I printed some simpler drums: And once I mocked up the 3D printed axle… …we’ve got a decent start on a chassis: I was really trying NOT to 3D print every single little thing on this build, especially as I have another complex build like that on the bench already…but in my defense the donor kit was missing a couple of parts and the rest needed backdating anyway 🤪 Thanks for looking…more soon! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom VanNortwick Posted April 17, 2022 Share Posted April 17, 2022 (edited) I notice on your front axle the spring shackles are angled as if there is no weight on the front axle. The picture I've added here shows the angle of the spring shackle that has weight on it. The weighted front end's shackle leans downward from the spring perch to the spring eye. The only way it could be like yours is if the front of the car was jacked up off the ground by the frame and the axle was hanging freely... Edited April 17, 2022 by Tom VanNortwick 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom VanNortwick Posted April 17, 2022 Share Posted April 17, 2022 Here's another view on a different car from the front... Notice the angle of the shackles... 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOBLNG Posted April 17, 2022 Share Posted April 17, 2022 Nice start Jim! It looks like that 3D printer will do some extremely nice detail.👍👍 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHolden74 Posted April 17, 2022 Share Posted April 17, 2022 Really nice start Jim! I'm interested in 3D part printing as well. Excited to see it! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gman Posted April 17, 2022 Share Posted April 17, 2022 I am really liking the traditional frame setup and engine so far. What are you planning for the K-member? As much as I love these Revell deuces, one thing that has always bothered me was the incorrect rear wheel well portions (on the roadster and 5 window versions of the kit). I tried to scratch up some modified masters to cast more correct replacements years ago, but never crossed the finish line. ^^ a not-so-visible body line Revell missed on a steel '32 roadster and 5 window body, likely more correct for a fibreglass body I suppose with 3D printing (which I really have to get into one day), replicating this body panel becomes less of a challenge. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Payne Posted April 17, 2022 Share Posted April 17, 2022 Love this so far! Any chance of getting some of those rear spring crossmembers? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spex84 Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 Loving this build so far, it's so cool to see 3D printed traditional hot rod parts in use! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattilacken Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 Nice build! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill-e-boy Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 This is looking cool 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zippi Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 Looking good so far. Love that Flatty with the Navarro heads. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeatMan Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 Nice project! Great start. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David G. Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 Nice work so far! 3D printing sure has come a long way in quality of resolution. David G. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickcaps55 Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 WOW ! thats awesome i have to get into this 3-D printing the things i have seen a lot of guys do with it over the last couple of years on this site is great. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobthehobbyguy Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 Cool project. Nice start. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CabDriver Posted April 19, 2022 Author Share Posted April 19, 2022 On 4/17/2022 at 6:31 AM, NOBLNG said: Nice start Jim! It looks like that 3D printer will do some extremely nice detail.👍👍 Thanks buddy! Yeah, it sure can! I’m pleased with how well it does, considering the price… On 4/17/2022 at 7:06 AM, PHolden74 said: Really nice start Jim! I'm interested in 3D part printing as well. Excited to see it! Me too! 🤪😂. Thank you! On 4/17/2022 at 12:39 PM, Paul Payne said: Love this so far! Any chance of getting some of those rear spring crossmembers? My stuff’s not good enough to sell…maybe when I get better at this stuff…but there’s a really good one on the market already! https://www.shapeways.com/product/MFSMNC2QL/2x-1-25-quickchange-rear-spring-and-crossmember MUCH better than I can do! Speaking of which… 21 hours ago, Spex84 said: Loving this build so far, it's so cool to see 3D printed traditional hot rod parts in use! Hope you consider putting your parts out there too for people to print at home - you do beautiful work sir! Thanks for all the nice comments everyone! On 4/17/2022 at 12:02 AM, Tom VanNortwick said: I notice on your front axle the spring shackles are angled as if there is no weight on the front axle. The picture I've added here shows the angle of the spring shackle that has weight on it. The weighted front end's shackle leans downward from the spring perch to the spring eye. The only way it could be like yours is if the front of the car was jacked up off the ground by the frame and the axle was hanging freely Good spot! Thank you!!! I couldn’t tell what was bugging me about that front end…you helped me figure it out without having to exert any brainpower 😂. On 4/17/2022 at 12:15 PM, gman said: What are you planning for the K-member? Thanks for the tip on those rear wheel-wells…I should look and see how visible they’ll be on the finished build - I never knew about that issue - appreciate you bringing it up! As for the crossmember… I couldn’t bring myself to pick up a Revell 40 kit to get the crossmember, only to modify it beyond recognition to get what I had in my head…so I just drew what I had in my head in CAD. My idea for this build was to simplify and cleanup as much as I can and really boil this build down into a really nice clean flowing design, but not in the street rod sense…just a SUPER cleaned up traditional-inspired build. Not lacking in detail, or something that wouldn’t be feasible in the real world (hopefully), but super tidy. So, here’s my simple crossmember design: And installed in the frame: I’ve got a more detailed version that I’ll mess with for some future builds, but this was a good test and perfect for what I was going for on this one… Back on the suspension; here’s my solution to the implausible spring…ended up using a slightly modified kit part from something or other…I also moved the crossmember on the kit frame up a couple of scale inches to drop the nose down somewhat - it won’t be super low but I was trying to stay fairly traditional and close to a ‘standard’ setup Not much progress for an entire Sunday and most of this evening…but I can get into some bigger projects now these are done - need to either design and print or modify a rear spring and get this thing on it’s wheels. Thanks for looking - more soon, soon as I’ve done more! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Payne Posted April 19, 2022 Share Posted April 19, 2022 Very tasty indeed! What is the material you are using? Do you think it will hold up well? My only concern with 3D printing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CabDriver Posted April 21, 2022 Author Share Posted April 21, 2022 On 4/19/2022 at 2:02 PM, Paul Payne said: Very tasty indeed! What is the material you are using? Do you think it will hold up well? My only concern with 3D printing. I’m using regular old Any Cubic UV cured resin - I haven’t of any longevity issues past the same stuff you might experience with regular resin that people have been casting parts with for years (parts warping if stored wrong, left in extreme heat or printed too thin)…slightly different product, granted, but I’m fairly confident in it. Guess we’ll see in a few years! Tonight’s project was modifying some parts box early-Ford kit suspension pieces to finish up the rear end assembly: Plus, a parts box rear spring modified to suit: Starting to get somewhere now… I’m sacrificing a little scale fidelity on the rear end for having good strong attachment points when I come to assemble this thing - the resin tires I’ve got are relatively heavy and most of this assembly will be hidden once the body’s on and the exhausts are in place so I’m sacrificing a little detail for not having too delicate of a build by the end… Another mock-up to see if we’re still copacetic…needed some fine tuning but it’s starting to look like a hot rod! Next job is finishing up the front end properly…more soon, soon as I’ve done more! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Payne Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 That is sooooooooo nice! Could I persuade you to print me some nut-bolt-washers? I hope the Tardels see this-could be used to illustrate one of their books! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobthehobbyguy Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 Shaping up niceky. Great use of new technology. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bullybeef Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 I’m liking all the add on 3D parts. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CabDriver Posted April 22, 2022 Author Share Posted April 22, 2022 (edited) Thanks fellas! A little progress tonight - got far enough along for a mock-up with wheels and tires to see how it’ll look! Still need to make some proper wheel backs - it’s just poster-tacked and Elmer’d together right now but good enough for a quick mock-up… Not perfect, but not TOO far off - looks like an old hot rod! 🤪 These wheels and tires are a really nicely done design that isn’t on the market yet but they will be soon-ish…someone else’s design that they kindly allowed me early access to so I could mess with them a little. I’ll post details on them once they’re out there to buy… Not a big update, but it was fun seeing it on it’s wheels properly for the first time! Still need to work on linkages for the front axle, finish up the steering and then next major project is the floor. Thanks for looking, more soon! Edited April 22, 2022 by CabDriver 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crossfire 2004 Posted April 22, 2022 Share Posted April 22, 2022 Mock up looks great, this is how the revamped Rat Roadster should have been offered to us ! Yeah I appreciate all the work that would entail but we can dream… 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Payne Posted April 22, 2022 Share Posted April 22, 2022 Better and better! Put me on the list for those tires- hint hint- block treads? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Metallic Posted April 22, 2022 Share Posted April 22, 2022 This is looking great Chris. Really like how you extended the steering column for mockup purposes so you can see where the steering wheel ends up. The tires look really good. It's hard to tell from the angles but they are big n' little's, no? In my opinion the offset on the front wheels looks a little deep, but could be a camera trick or something. I'm very interested in the wheels/tires as they are right up my alley as far as build style. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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