BigTallDad Posted December 24, 2018 Posted December 24, 2018 Are there copyright dates on the instructions or decals?
Luc Janssens Posted December 24, 2018 Posted December 24, 2018 It was a costly cost-cutting measure, introducing the first in a series of high-end kits and using the body buck from the old '80s designed 1/32 Snap-Tite kit, to design the tool.
Force Posted December 25, 2018 Posted December 25, 2018 (edited) 17 hours ago, MrObsessive said: So THAT was the difference between the boxes! I learned something new today.....I thought I heard someone say that there was a different box years ago, but they weren't specific. Now watch someone try to sell one of those 'sealed' kits in with the bad body on eBay. The uninitiated won't be the wiser sadly. I believe the wrong roof is what led to the delay of the Daytona kit initially and IIRC, Revell did replace the bodies for those that asked which was very good on their part. Yes they did, I got the early Pro Modeler kit with the bad body back when the kit was new and asked for the corrected parts, except for the body Revell sent new glass, new decals and new instructions. The copyright date on the first issue with the wrong body is 1997 and the revised kit 1998. Edited December 25, 2018 by Force
Oldmopars Posted December 27, 2018 Posted December 27, 2018 Now see, I build mine as a General Lee many years back, and I just now found out the roof is wrong. I had the Old pro modeler version. Think its too late to ask for a corrected body?
ChrisBcritter Posted December 27, 2018 Posted December 27, 2018 7 hours ago, Oldmopars said: Now see, I build mine as a General Lee many years back, and I just now found out the roof is wrong. I had the Old pro modeler version. Think its too late to ask for a corrected body? Maybe, maybe not if they get their distribution set up again - however, the '69 body is out of production. Shortly before the shutdown, I asked if they could send me the current '68 body and glass so I could do a roof transplant, and they agreed to it.
Sledsel Posted December 31, 2018 Posted December 31, 2018 Darn, I should have started with the incorrect 69 before I chopped the top on my MPC..... LOL
Chuck Kourouklis Posted January 4, 2019 Posted January 4, 2019 (edited) One of the biggest fumbles ever from Revell/Monogram. For my money, also one of their greatest recoveries. I asked for a couple of the corrected bodies and they sent two entire kits. R/M could be really good like that from time to time, and I hope the new company takes such things into account as it works out its new normal. That first body was rough, but it does make you appreciate the correction all the more. The recent '70 Chargers are also pretty nice, based on the corrected '69 patterns but all-new in tooling. Edited January 9, 2019 by Chuck Kourouklis removal of reference to deleted off-topic post
Brutalform Posted January 5, 2019 Posted January 5, 2019 Someone might want to build a chopped top, without actually cutting the roof. ?
bobthehobbyguy Posted January 5, 2019 Posted January 5, 2019 How about a Smokey Yunick stock car version?
1972coronet Posted January 5, 2019 Posted January 5, 2019 That botched 1997 issue body (was the glass proportionally-undersized as well ?) would be a great piece for a 1969-era Funny Car ( I believe that there was a Lindamood Color Me Gone ! Charger in '68 or '69 , no ?). A customer at the gas station I worked at 30 years ago showed me photos of the 1969 Charger that he bought new ( from Atlantic Dodge in East Los Angeles --- long defunct ) and customised : - Chopped top - Frenched fuel filler - Miles-deep Night Watch Blue lacquer paint - Fenton Sharks I wish that I had access to those photos again , as it would be a neat car to build a replica of based on the Revell goof .
Dan Rosenello Posted January 8, 2019 Posted January 8, 2019 I bought that initial ‘69 Charger kit and Revell sent me a new, corrected body. So my kit has that previous lettering I guess, but the correct body. Also, all of the Pro-Modeler Chargers I’ve bought had two complete engines in them. A 440 & a Hemi. Plus the racing parts previously mentioned. Drag racing parts for the Charger, NASCAR stuff for the Daytona. And FWIW, I still haven’t actually finished either of those Chargers I bought all those years ago. ?
Casey Posted January 8, 2019 Posted January 8, 2019 3 hours ago, Dan Rosenello said: I bought that initial ‘69 Charger kit and Revell sent me a new, corrected body. So my kit has that previous lettering I guess, but the correct body. I hope they sent you the 'glass', too, as that was also new/different. 3 hours ago, Dan Rosenello said: Also, all of the Pro-Modeler Chargers I’ve bought had two complete engines in them. A 440 & a Hemi. Plus the racing parts previously mentioned. Drag racing parts for the Charger, NASCAR stuff for the Daytona. Dave Zinn had a good breakdown of the Revell '68-'70 Charger family earlier in this topic: On 8/11/2010 at 10:56 AM, davezinn said: i've come up with at least 7 '68-70 body toolings that Revell has done. 1st Pro Modeler '69 body with the wack roof 2nd Pro Modeler '69 body with the "corrected" roof 3rd Pro Modeler '69 Daytona body 4th Revell Dick Landy '68 body with no vinyl top and '69 side markers 5th Revell '68 Bullitt diecast 6th Revell '70-ish Fast & Furious diecast 7th Revell Special Edition '68 kit with no vinyl top or side markers *below kits are new since Dave created the above* 8th Revell Dominic's 1970 Dodge Charger - Fast & Furious 9th Revell '70 Dodge Charger R/T
Xingu Posted January 9, 2019 Posted January 9, 2019 Cleaned up all of the off-topic posts. Keep it on track folks.
Chuck Kourouklis Posted January 9, 2019 Posted January 9, 2019 18 hours ago, Casey said: I hope they sent you the 'glass', too, as that was also new/different. I may be mistaken - and it would be interesting to hear if I were - but I think after the rollout fiasco, R/M made hella sure everyone had matching glass for their body corrections at least.
Force Posted January 9, 2019 Posted January 9, 2019 I got new glass together with the new body, new decals and new instructions when I asked for the corrected parts, the plastic bag with the glass was even marked "revised".
martinfan5 Posted January 9, 2019 Posted January 9, 2019 (edited) I am assuming Revell had to make a new mold for the body ?, is it possible to even make changes to already cut tooling ? Edited January 9, 2019 by martinfan5
Chuck Kourouklis Posted January 9, 2019 Posted January 9, 2019 Well the old practice with annuals was to make detail changes to the tooling all the time. As for something this major though, yeah, I'm not sure. From the beltline down, the corrected body seemed very similar to the chopped one, but without the two shells at hand to compare, I can only speculate.
martinfan5 Posted January 10, 2019 Posted January 10, 2019 44 minutes ago, Chuck Kourouklis said: Well the old practice with annuals was to make detail changes to the tooling all the time. As for something this major though, yeah, I'm not sure. From the beltline down, the corrected body seemed very similar to the chopped one, but without the two shells at hand to compare, I can only speculate. Oh I forgot all about the old annual tooling that got change every year.
crowe-t Posted January 10, 2019 Author Posted January 10, 2019 (edited) Recently Jim H. posted pictures of the incorrect and correct bodies side by side. Maybe he can give some insight as to the accuracy of the lower half of the body. Edited January 10, 2019 by crowe-t
JJ Deuce Posted January 10, 2019 Posted January 10, 2019 On 1/5/2019 at 8:22 AM, Brutalform said: Someone might want to build a chopped top, without actually cutting the roof. ? this thread made me go look at my stash, and it turns out I bought a copy of the chopped top kit. However, it might work out fine - the way-too-short roll cage from the old general lee kit looks right at home
Mike Forrester Posted February 3, 2024 Posted February 3, 2024 On 12/24/2018 at 8:04 AM, Jim H. said: Revell STILL missed the boat with the corrected body. As with all of their B-body Mopars, the sides are slabby, the rear quarters are too pointy, and the rear wheel arch is wrong. It’s like the tooling designer has a lazy eye or something.
KWT Posted February 10, 2024 Posted February 10, 2024 On 2/3/2024 at 3:33 PM, Mike Forrester said: Revell STILL missed the boat with the corrected body. As with all of their B-body Mopars, the sides are slabby, the rear quarters are too pointy, and the rear wheel arch is wrong. It’s like the tooling designer has a lazy eye or something. While that very well may be true, it looks pretty badass when finished... especially compared to the DOH kit
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