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I'm not much of a "showrod" man myself but I also like the Uncertain T...don't know why.

It would be bad if these iconic trucks would disappear again, the Movin On truck is sold, both the Rubber Duck and Duel trucks are sold...and the websites about them are gone resulting in lots of lost information. Sagehorn at least still has the BJ truck.

Here is a definition of the word Motor I found quoted from a dictionary. "a machine, especially one powered by electricity or internal combustion, that supplies motive power for a vehicle or for some other device with moving parts" So it can be either, and you say Motor Club, Motor Vehicle, Motor Oil, Motor Racing, Motor Sport, Motor Home, Motorcycle, and so on...and all are not electric or meant to be. And isn't the name Mopar a contraction of MOtor and PARts. The definition of the word Engine in the same dictionary is: "a machine with moving parts that converts power into motion". Locomotives are often refered to as engines, they can be powered by steam, electricity or diesel...or both electricity and diesel as most diesel locomotives are.

The boxart are close but not exactly the same for the different issues. The original 2009 issue. The 2011 reissue The 2016 reissue.

None. The 427 SOHC was not on the option list and you could only get one over the counter if you had the right connections in 1964-65. But you could get a 427 from 1963½ to 1968, single 4 bbl rated at 390 hp and 410 hp, and dual 4 bbl rated at 425 hp...but they were closer to 426 than 427 at 425.98 cui. Chevrolet had three different 427's in the 60's, the Mk I 409 W engine based 427 Z-11 in 1963, the Mk II 427 "mystery engine" also in 1963 and none of them were available in showroom cars, and the Mk IV "rat engine" based 427 from 1966-forward wich everyone could buy.

I don't know for sure but after what I have seen on Paul Sagehorn's own now gone tvtruckin.com website some years ago the Movin On truck and the BJ truck he has now is supposed to be the real deal, he even found the right Brown trailer for it. He had a replica BJ truck with a trailer with a modern reefer unit at first but he appearently sold that when he found the truck he has now. If you follow the link below you can see what Paul himself wrote about his TV trucks on Hank's Truck Forum in 2009. http://hankstruckforum.com/htforum/index.php?topic=31943.0 This is what was found under the fifth wheel mounting plate on this truck when it was restored, the photo is saved from Paul's own tvtruckin.com website.

Yellow was Accel, MSD's signature color is red, today you can get MSD stuff in black too. The thing bugging me on a build is left moldlines on things like the radiator and other visible places.

Very nice as usual and you do great work with these decals. But I'm still waiting on the upphostery pattern for the Thunderbolt rear seat and the valve cover and air cleaner decals for the Mopar Super Stock cars, I can't find them on your site.

And the old tires has the Good Year name...but not Eagle, the rear slicks is just Good Year and the fronts says Good Year Frontrunner.

It's most likely exactly the same as the Reher Morrison re-issue from 2014 with different decals, so it's not the same as the first issue from 1984. The tooling was modified slightly first to do the Tony Foti LAPD Camaro in 1991, then a bit more to do the Jerry Eckman Pennzoil and Rickie Smith STP Pontiac Firebird Pro Stock kits also in 1991, and later even more to do the Warren Johnson GM Goodwrench/Superman and Mark Pawuk Summit Pontiac Firebird Pro Stock kits in 1999. The floorboard is changed to fit the newer swoopy Pontiac body, the rollcage is changed to do the "funny car cage" around the driver wich were in the later issues but the whole cage is not in the kit now as it was not used in 1982-83, and some of the engine parts are different from the 1984 issue.

This thread was started 2009 and I bought mine back when this kit was first issued back in 2009, that's the copyright date on the kit box and instructions I have. But this kit has been reissued at least a couple of times since then, 2011 and 2016, and for some reason they did new instructions for it wich was more wrong than the original ones was...who knows why.

The Team Chimera truck is the transporter truck for the show/race truck Chimera designed by Jan Richter and built by Sven-Erik "Svempa" Bergendahl from Stockholm Sweden, Italeri also did the limited edition Dark Diamond, Black Amber and Blue Shark from the Svempa/Richter design team. Just for information, the engine in this kit is not right as it's the old 14.2 litre displacement DS14 wich originally came in the Scania 140 series in 1969, Italeri has used this engine since the first Scania truck kit they made back in the 80's, it was correct back then but even tho' it's modified some it's definately not correct for the R730. Scania replaced the DS14 with the DC16 in 2002, first with 15.6 litre displacement but later increased to 16.4 litre wich the 730 is, and even if it still is a V8 it looks quite different. Picture of the old DS14. Picture of the later correct DC16 wich should have been in the kit...and all Italeri Scania kits with V8 since 2002.

My version of the 5 Window Coupe from 2009 the instructions show the cylinder heads the correct way except in one picture where passenger side of the engine is shown for the oil filter placement, in that picture the head is drawn upside down. But I really never trust instructions myself as they often can be confusing and sometimes wrong as in this case, if you examine the parts and how they are supposed to go together and do some test fitting you will see right away that something is wrong and the parts woun't fit as descrbed. The valve covers has locator pins on the underside and the heads has the corresponding holes for these pins if you turn them the right side up as you have done in your first pic, the heads also has locator tabs that fits into the cavities in the deck surface of the block, so it's quite obvious wich way the heads should be. If you are picky the oil pan is also the wrong way as the deep part of the oil pan on the first generation Hemi is at the rear.

I don't really know where they got it from as it's not correct to the real 1966 engine. The '69 Mustang is a old MPC kit and the '66 Mustang HT kit has allways been AMT and it's funny that these two kits were so similar in construction...and both are wrong. Some of the 1964½ Mustang with the 260 had the oil filler tube but there were 260 Mustangs without the tube also as they apparently came both ways. It may have had to do with where they were sold, the '64 Fairlane I had came from California and was built in November 1963 at the San Jose plant, the 289 engine in it had a PCV valve in the passenger side valve cover and a breather in the driver side valve cover where you filled the oil, and California was early with emission control.

The metric system is based on millimeter, centimeter, decimeter, meter and kilometer and everything is evenly multiplied or divided with 10, 100, 1000 to get a larger or smaller unit of measurement, so it really doesnt matter that much what scale you are working with if you use metric. If any scale would be very easy to do in metric it would be even scales, 1:10, 1:20, 1:50, 1:100, 1:200 1:250, 1:500 and so on and construction blueprints are often in these scales, for example 1 millimeter in 1:50th scale would be 50 millimeters (5 centimeters) in the real world. But it works well with any scale, 1 milimeter in 1:24th scale is 24 millimeters in 1:1, 1 millimeter in 1:25th scale is 25 millimeters, and the other way around.

Very very nice indeed.

This kit is a old MPC kit and it's quite crude compared to more modern toolings, none of the engines are really that accurate to what they are supposed to be and doesn't look right everywhere. The small block in the kit is most likely supposed to be a 351 Windsor based on the shape of the valve covers, and the 351 Cleveland came in late 1969 for the 1970 model year. Ford used a oil filler tube on the 221-260 and early 289 but if it would have been this oil filler tube it would have been only on the drivers side of the water pump going into the upper part of the timing chain cover on that side. But it went away in 1964 beacuse the '64 Fairlaine with a 289 I used to own didn't have this tube, after 1963 they moved the breather to the drivers side valve cover and you filled the oil through it, they also added a PCV valve to the other valve cover, so Ford didn't use oil filler tubes in 1969 and the 351W never had one. Apparently didn't MPC do the homework right before they did this kit.

The printer plate is just a thin sheet of aluminum used in an offset printer, go to your local printer and see if they have any old used ones you can have. Otherwise you can use an aluminum soda can or use the material from disposable aluminum foil pans or serving trays wich is thinner than the cans but holds the shapes good, there are some on the market with quite large flat surfaces one can cut out and use.

Well said. Anything we say at this moment is just pure speculation as there are not much facts regarding this yet. I think we have to wait and see what will happen.

Well I can't really take credit for it, the last reply made by Casey Littmann in the linked thread above about the Pro Modeler '69 Charger kit addresses the issue, I read it there back in January when he wrote it and put it in my memory bank, so I got from him...but yes it's a good tip. But as I said, the tooling for the body was fixed before the second run of the Pro Modeler kit and it's the one they still use for the '69 Charger. If we go back to the Pro Modeler '69 Daytona, the intake manifold for the optional Hemi is right for a street car as all Street Hemi's from 1966 to 1971 had inline dual 4bbl carburetors, but none of the air cleaners in the kit are the right style for the Street Hemi, a correct one can be found in the Revell 67 Plymouth GTX street car kit. On the other hand, the intake manifold for the optional Hemi is not correct for NASCAR as they were only allowed to use one carburetor in NASCAR competition at that time, so they had single 4bbl on a special intake manifold often called "bathtub" on the Hemi's, the shape of the air cleaner is kind of correct for a NASCAR car tho'. The "Bathtub" intake manifold they used in NASCAR is a large two part kind of a crossram intake with long runners under the bolted lid, but for one carburetor, the carb is mounted in a recess in the lid to get it low so everything would fit under the hood. I have not seen a correct "bathtub" intake manifold in a kit or anywhere on the aftermarket but a rough bathtub shaped intake manifold can be found in the old MPC NASCAR Mopars with Hemi, some have casted this intake and I know The Modelhaus had it...the style is right but it's not really correct it lacks the right details.

Exactly, the Daytona doesn't have a vinyl top either, the 69 Charger do. But all 69 Pro Modeler Chargers didn't have the wrong shape "chopped" body, Revell corrected it and cut a new tool for the body for the later run of the Pro Modeler '69 Charger so they have a new body with a better roofline and it's the same as in the non Pro Modeler issues. I bought the first issue when it came out and when I read you could contact Revell for the corrected parts I did that and asked for all the corrected revised parts for this kit, but I didn't get all the unplated parts, in that case it would have been easier to send me a new kit. No the things I got was a new corrected body, new corrected clear parts, a new slightly different decal sheet and new instructions if I remember correctly...it was 20 years ago you know. You can spot the difference on the box, this is the first issue with the wrong shaped body, notice the R E V E L L - M O N O G R A M script under the Pro Modeler '69 Charger R/T 1:25 text. And this is the box with the revised corrected body where it says Pro Modeler By Revell-Monogram '69 Charger R/T 1:25, no R E V E L L - M O N O G R A M under it.

Please go off the caps lock, typing in all capital letters is considered as shouting on internet and forums.

Revell-Monogram didn't hit the market at the best time with the Nitro drag racing kits as they evolved dramatically from in the mid 80's when they issued the first FC and TF kits until the last issues they did in 2002. Revell did not keep up with the evolution as it was faster than they managed to do updates and the last issues of the TF dragster from 2002 and the FC from 1997-98 wasn't really accurate to what they ran at the time, if they had done all the necessary updates back then at least the TF kit would be pretty much up to date even now 16 years later with a couple of small things added The Pro Stockers was a bit easier as they didn't change that much and they kept up pretty good over the years until they stopped doing them. So a new Top Fuel Dragster kit wouldn't be that hard to do from the last version of the tooling, some small updating to the chassis, new puke can, a belly pan, update the engine to todays specs with a setback blower, new fuel pumps and fuel systems, MSD Pro Mag 44 magnetos new valve covers with spark plug covers, new wings (one piece front and three element rear), new wheels, a head shield for the roll cage and maybe a DSR canopy as an option. The Funny Car kits are pretty much the same, some updating to the engine like on the TF, new oil and fuel tank, new puke can and belly pan, update the chassis and new bodys...and of course wheels as they haven't been good since the Weld Pro Star wheels in some of the Olds Funny Car kits, after that they did the disaster by combining the nice Weld Pro Stars they had with Center Line Convo Pro rims...not that good of a result. The Pro Stockers are another thing, I believe they have to be totally redone with all new tooling to do an accurate Pro Stock kit. Revell just issued new tooling full detail NASCAR kits last year and those haven't been around that much lately either, but now with the new ownership we have to wait and see what will happen.

And some of the 80's-forward Pro Stock and Funny Car kits, they vere also originally 1:24th scale.

To keep the facts straight, Revell did not buy Monogram...it was kind of the opposite way depending on how you see it. Monogram was bought by Odessey Partners of New York in 1986, later the same year Odessey bought Revell and merged them together, 1994 the company was bought by Hallmark/Binney Smith and from 2007 until last friday Hobbico. The kits was sold as separate brands until the mid 2000's when the Monogram lable pretty much disappeared and was used more sporadically on kits from both manufacurers regardless of what brand the kits originally was released under.