Dougritt Posted June 22, 2018 Posted June 22, 2018 (edited) The Project So Far... This project started as a Pocher Alfa Romeo 8C 2300 Kit in 2011, but has grown into a mostly scratch build in brass. I thought I’d post a few images of the build for the fine Modelers on this forum. Very few of the Pocher parts remain; the engine block halves are the original Pocher parts, but most other engine assemblies have been cast in white metal or built from scratch. The terrific Pocher wire wheels are being used as well as many metal fasteners. This car is an amalgam of my favorite features from several of the surviving examples. The cockpit panel is aluminum with machine turning details from a Dremel and small brush. The firewall is brass featuring a vintage Autovac unit, cast extra spark plugs, and wiring busses. The scratch built brass radiator with plumbing. Most engine parts are cast or scratch built. A brass alternator with wiring. The manifolds are cast from white metal. Supercharger details... The start of a brass chassis... Suspension assemblies are mostly scratch builds... The brass cockpit floor with scale hardware. Leaf spring assembly... The Pocher body is used as a body buck for fitting components. Brass steering wheel... The chassis is assembled. I will next add wiring assemblies a construct a metal body. Edited June 22, 2018 by Dougritt
Ace-Garageguy Posted June 23, 2018 Posted June 23, 2018 (edited) Superb. I have several of the Pocher kit in various stages of rebuilding and upgrading, including a bastard flathead-powered dry lakes car, but nothing even coming close to what you're doing here. Most impressive. EDIT: However, you should probably post this in the large-scale "Big Boyz" section. Don't be surprised to find it moved. Edited June 23, 2018 by Ace-Garageguy
Ace-Garageguy Posted June 26, 2018 Posted June 26, 2018 Man...I'm really surprised this isn't getting more attention. It's a spectacular piece of work. You really should ask the moderators to move it to the large-scale section. There will likely be a few more folks over there who "get it".
SfanGoch Posted June 26, 2018 Posted June 26, 2018 I gotta plead guilty to what Bill said. I'm sorry I didn't check out this thread earlier. That is magnificent workmanship, Doug. Jaw-droppingly magnificent. This is the best reengineered Pocher kit I've ever seen.
Eric Macleod Posted June 26, 2018 Posted June 26, 2018 I couldn't agree more with the others. Fabulous work so far. I will be following along with interest.
Codi Posted June 26, 2018 Posted June 26, 2018 This is fantastic to behold Douglas. Whether it stays here or gets moved to the Biz Boyz, I'll be sure to look for your future updates. Cheers, Tim
FabbricaP Posted June 26, 2018 Posted June 26, 2018 Wow.. Simply incredible workmanship Doug. I think in some ways our hobby can be described as a 'pursuit of perfection' but you may have achieved perfection with this stunning build. Keep it coming!
Anglia105E Posted June 26, 2018 Posted June 26, 2018 Although I work in 1:24 scale, I have the utmost admiration for anyone who takes on a Pocher kit in 1:8 scale. Actually, in this case you have gone far beyond just building a Pocher kit out of the box and incredibly you are scratchbuilding almost all of the major parts yourself. This is not merely assembling a scale model car kit, this is true engineering in 1:8 scale and your technical skills involved in the detail of this build are up there at the very highest level. Even my best builds in plastic or resin do not come anywhere close to your exquisite brass creation. I shall pay attention to further work by the master craftsman. David
Belugawrx Posted June 27, 2018 Posted June 27, 2018 Uh-Oh..more to watch,..less build time,..hehehe Looking forward to more updates when you can... Cheers, and thanks for taking the time to post
Twokidsnosleep Posted June 27, 2018 Posted June 27, 2018 (edited) Just caught this, thanks to whomever moved it to big boys We haven’t had the luxury of a proper Pocher Build since Cato finished his Rolls and before that Harry with his great classics THIS is beyond just a build, this is car manufacture !!! I am super impressed with what you are fabricating here Please continue to show us as it develops Edited June 27, 2018 by Twokidsnosleep
bbowser Posted June 27, 2018 Posted June 27, 2018 17 hours ago, Twokidsnosleep said: Just caught this, thanks to whomever moved it to big boys We haven’t had the luxury of a proper Pocher Build since Cato finished his Rolls and before that Harry with his great classics THIS is beyond just a build, this is car manufacture !!! I am super impressed with what you are fabricating here Please continue to show us as it develops I agree! Please keep the updates coming.
Gramps46 Posted June 27, 2018 Posted June 27, 2018 Outstanding craftmanship! I have only had my hands on one and it was a challenge and then to see what you have done leaves me in awe.
LaughingIndian Posted June 28, 2018 Posted June 28, 2018 20 hours ago, Twokidsnosleep said: Just caught this, thanks to whomever moved it to big boys We haven’t had the luxury of a proper Pocher Build since Cato finished his Rolls and before that Harry with his great classics THIS is beyond just a build, this is car manufacture !!! I am super impressed with what you are fabricating here Please continue to show us as it develops i cant think of anything else to say ... but thank you very much for the pics Douglas
Dougritt Posted June 28, 2018 Author Posted June 28, 2018 (edited) Hi guys- Thanks for the kind words and encouragement. Since the last post, I have decided to rework the fuel tank. I made an assumption that the tank was internal and the aero tail was cowling. While perusing many auto sites, a photo showing the proper tank construction popped up. The original tank (incorrect): Here is a reproduction tank being built like the original: The internal baffles can be seen. They reduce fuel sloshing. Here is another image showing the assembly: So...my initial tank assembly goes into the scrap bin! I have reworked several assemblies so far; the cockpit floor, chassis cowling, to name just a few. Here is the chassis underside...several of the chassis members have since been updated to be more accurate. I mentioned earlier that the car will be fully wired before the body goes on. It seems that the only wiring diagram that exists is in low resolution black and white. I traced the circuits and created this color diagram. Some more research on the original instrumention revealed that most of the 1/8 graphics available are incorrect. I decided to create these Jaeger instrument graphics from scratch in Illustrator. Sadly, much of the detail will be lost when reduced to 1/8 scale. Again, I will toss out the previous versions! Edited June 28, 2018 by Dougritt
Jantrix Posted June 28, 2018 Posted June 28, 2018 WO. You guys that build in brass drive me nuts. I have enough trouble with plastic. This is very impressive.
Twokidsnosleep Posted July 3, 2018 Posted July 3, 2018 I have one full Alfa Pocher kit and a second that someone started and likely have lost most of the parts for After I do the first kit oob, I was toying with the idea of brass and mods for the second one....maybe a Muletto I am taking vigorous notes here. So many kits, so many projects, so little time
Bugatti Fan Posted July 18, 2018 Posted July 18, 2018 Model Making as opposed to Kit Building................Superb!
dino246gt Posted July 20, 2018 Posted July 20, 2018 Can't really heap more praise on the pile, it's so high I can't reach the top! But MAN you do amazing work! Crazy amount of attention to detail, WOW!
Codi Posted August 11, 2018 Posted August 11, 2018 Still drooling over each update Douglas. So so inspiring what you're doing here. cheers, tim
jaxenro Posted August 15, 2018 Posted August 15, 2018 I wouldn’t call this a Pocher kit but a scratchbuild with some Pocher parts but whatever you call it it is just phenomenal work sheer artistry
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