Mark Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 Salvino got stuff they wanted, that Atlantis likely wasn't going to do anything with. Atlantis seems to be doing the "easier" items first (no plating or vinyl tires, though they have done a couple of kits with plating). Hopefully those do well enough that they can dig into any automotive items they got. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Van Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 27 minutes ago, Mark said: Salvino got stuff they wanted, that Atlantis likely wasn't going to do anything with. Atlantis seems to be doing the "easier" items first (no plating or vinyl tires, though they have done a couple of kits with plating). Hopefully those do well enough that they can dig into any automotive items they got. Agreed.....Atlantis is running what is ready to go. The 'Everything is go' Mercury display was run by Revell a few years ago and thus was in good shape and complete. I am sure that Atlantis has a few tools that are incomplete. Salvinos had to tool Clear parts and tires for some of the RM tools they got. So the tooling was a bit of a mess.......Atlantis needs some ROI before they start tooling missing or damaged inserts. I've contacted Atlantis with some suggestions I hope we see again. The big Tom Daniel trike kit is a big step. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Metallic Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 1 hour ago, Mark said: Atlantis got everything the "new Revell" didn't want, that was over here. Ahh, thanks for the clarification Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Brian Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 The NASCAR tire molds probably got sent to China. The tires were the same for every Monogram NASCAR kit from the 80s all the way to the last full detail kits in the 2010s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim N Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 3 minutes ago, Fat Brian said: The NASCAR tire molds probably got sent to China. The tires were the same for every Monogram NASCAR kit from the 80s all the way to the last full detail kits in the 2010s. That really is not correct. Revell lost the Goodyear license and their kits in the 2000's were hollow tires without the Goodyear markings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Can-Con Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 On 3/4/2020 at 4:10 PM, Roadrunner said: You and me both. I'm considering the new '69 with the roof cut off to make a nice convertible. Cutting the roof off will make a convertible, but not a "nice one" For that you'll need to rework the rear deck and tulip panel between the deck lid and roof opening and the top of the 1/4 panels too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roadrunner Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 1 hour ago, Can-Con said: Cutting the roof off will make a convertible, but not a "nice one" For that you'll need to rework the rear deck and tulip panel between the deck lid and roof opening and the top of the 1/4 panels too. I'll worry about all that when the time comes, but thanks a bunch for the info, as I'd assumed they were identical, one to the other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Brian Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 7 hours ago, Jim N said: That really is not correct. Revell lost the Goodyear license and their kits in the 2000's were hollow tires without the Goodyear markings. The kit I was looking at was older than I thought it was. The tires in the late 90s kits still have the molded in Goodyear markings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr mopar Posted March 14, 2020 Author Share Posted March 14, 2020 10 hours ago, Dave Van said: Agreed.....Atlantis is running what is ready to go. The 'Everything is go' Mercury display was run by Revell a few years ago and thus was in good shape and complete. I am sure that Atlantis has a few tools that are incomplete. Salvinos had to tool Clear parts and tires for some of the RM tools they got. So the tooling was a bit of a mess.......Atlantis needs some ROI before they start tooling missing or damaged inserts. I've contacted Atlantis with some suggestions I hope we see again. The big Tom Daniel trike kit is a big step. The King Chopper will be a big step for them being there's rubber tires in that kit I heard that the molds did need some clean up and they have to do some chroming ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niteowl7710 Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 The only thing that Salvinos JR got is the Monogram NASCAR tooling from 1982-1993. Back to the topic at hand, the '29 Ford, Jeep Wrangler Rubicon (and I presume the LUV, but I didn't specifically confirm that one) are shipped from wholesalers/distributors and should be arriving at your local/online plastic pushers by Monday. You mileage may vary depending on where your source is located relative their supplier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 9 hours ago, Mr mopar said: The King Chopper will be a big step for them being there's rubber tires in that kit I heard that the molds did need some clean up and they have to do some chroming ! They've already done the Ghost of the Red Baron kit, which is mostly (if not all) plated. So they do have access to plating equipment or facilities. It's a new thing for Atlantis though, their previous kits have been molded in color and clear only. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tim boyd Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 5 hours ago, niteowl7710 said: Back to the topic at hand, the '29 Ford, Jeep Wrangler Rubicon (and I presume the LUV, but I didn't specifically confirm that one) are shipped from wholesalers/distributors and should be arriving at your local/online plastic pushers by Monday. You mileage may vary depending on where your source is located relative their supplier. Great News, James, thanks for the update! TIM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichCostello Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 Does anyone know what the new parts in the Rubicon are? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luc Janssens Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 45 minutes ago, RichCostello said: Does anyone know what the new parts in the Rubicon are? check out Chris his video.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keyser Posted March 15, 2020 Share Posted March 15, 2020 (edited) LifeGAURD. That anything like a LifeGUARD? I know nobody spell checks news articles. But DECALS?? And no customer service to request fixed decals. SMH Edited March 15, 2020 by keyser Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luc Janssens Posted March 15, 2020 Share Posted March 15, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, keyser said: LifeGAURD. That anything like a LifeGUARD? I know nobody spell checks news articles. But DECALS?? And no customer service to request fixed decals. SMH easy fix though, just need a pair of scissors. It's kind like with MPC not having the Trans Am licensing back in the day Edited March 15, 2020 by Luc Janssens Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highway Posted March 15, 2020 Share Posted March 15, 2020 9 hours ago, Luc Janssens said: easy fix though, just need a pair of scissors. It's kind like with MPC not having the Trans Am licensing back in the day Oh yes, the wonder broken up TRA NS AM on the decal sheets! The only thing I still don't understand is how MPC without that licencing was able to use the Trans Am names on the box art, because quite a few of those old late 70s and early 80s Trans Am kits have "Firebird Trans Am" on the box even into the AMT days. One thing that I'm disappointed in with the Rubicon is I think Revell completely messed up more than just the spelling on LIFEGUARD with this kit. It's just my opinion so you can agree with it or not, but now that I have watched the unboxing video this has went from a "can't wait to see what's inside" to a "meh, I don't really care if I pick one up or not and probably won't" because I think Revell could have sold to many more by keeping the previous issue's off road parts in the kit as well as the new factory stock parts and day two add ons such as the snorkel and more aggressive tires than what you'd probably roll off the dealer lot with. I for one was planning on buying a few if the Baja Claw tires from the previous issue would have been included as options in this issue just for tires for the parts box without leaving me with a kit without tires and wheels I could have still built as a factory stock or a slightly modified in progress rig with a mix of the parts from both the new parts and the previous issue parts. As I said, this is just my opinion so I don't really care if anyone agrees with the way I feel or not, but I just see it as one more thing in a long line of things Revell messes up, and just not a misspelling on the decal sheet! Good job Revell, because I know for sure you lost at least a solid few kits you would have sold to me just because you couldn't make this kit be built optional ways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luc Janssens Posted March 15, 2020 Share Posted March 15, 2020 3 minutes ago, highway said: Oh yes, the wonder broken up TRA NS AM on the decal sheets! The only thing I still don't understand is how MPC without that licencing was able to use the Trans Am names on the box art, because quite a few of those old late 70s and early 80s Trans Am kits have "Firebird Trans Am" on the box even into the AMT days. One thing that I'm disappointed in with the Rubicon is I think Revell completely messed up more than just the spelling on LIFEGUARD with this kit. It's just my opinion so you can agree with it or not, but now that I have watched the unboxing video this has went from a "can't wait to see what's inside" to a "meh, I don't really care if I pick one up or not and probably won't" because I think Revell could have sold to many more by keeping the previous issue's off road parts in the kit as well as the new factory stock parts and day two add ons such as the snorkel and more aggressive tires than what you'd probably roll off the dealer lot with. I for one was planning on buying a few if the Baja Claw tires from the previous issue would have been included as options in this issue just for tires for the parts box without leaving me with a kit without tires and wheels I could have still built as a factory stock or a slightly modified in progress rig with a mix of the parts from both the new parts and the previous issue parts. As I said, this is just my opinion so I don't really care if anyone agrees with the way I feel or not, but I just see it as one more thing in a long line of things Revell messes up, and just not a misspelling on the decal sheet! Good job Revell, because I know for sure you lost at least a solid few kits you would have sold to me just because you couldn't make this kit be built optional ways. I passed on the previous releases of this tool mainly because it's curbside, and for off road vehicles I like all the greasy bits to be present including the engine, the reason also I'm not interested in the one Meng released. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Van Posted March 15, 2020 Share Posted March 15, 2020 12 hours ago, keyser said: LifeGAURD. That anything like a LifeGUARD? I know nobody spell checks news articles. But DECALS?? And no customer service to request fixed decals. SMH I've done the art for over 300 of my own decals and the art for many kits and aftermarket. My number one fear is to have something go to print with any error......a mis-spell is the worse. No excuse for this one........spell check is your friend! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Can-Con Posted March 15, 2020 Share Posted March 15, 2020 25 minutes ago, highway said: Oh yes, the wonder broken up TRA NS AM on the decal sheets! The only thing I still don't understand is how MPC without that licencing was able to use the Trans Am names on the box art, because quite a few of those old late 70s and early 80s Trans Am kits have "Firebird Trans Am" on the box even into the AMT days. They were able to because they had paid for the licencing for a few years. It seems to go back and forth between the companys a lot in those days. Even GM had contemplated changing "Trans Am" to just "T/A" for the 3rd generation cars so they wouldn't have to deal with the SCCA, who have always owned the rights to the name, not GM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1972coronet Posted March 15, 2020 Share Posted March 15, 2020 3 hours ago, Can-Con said: Even GM had contemplated changing "Trans Am" to just "T/A" for the 3rd generation cars so they wouldn't have to deal with the SCCA, who have always owned the rights to the name, not GM. Which is why Dodge employed T/A on their 1970 Challenger --- can't copyright numbers nor acronyms . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris in Berwyn Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 5 hours ago, Can-Con said: Say, how is this kit? Back in 1979 or so I didn’t like the nose on this car, but now I have a soft spot for it and if it’s a decent kit I’ll get one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Brian Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 2 hours ago, Chris in Berwyn said: Say, how is this kit? Back in 1979 or so I didn’t like the nose on this car, but now I have a soft spot for it and if it’s a decent kit I’ll get one. It is pretty bad but typical for it's time. Poor fit, I'm pretty certain the engine is the wrong, held over from earlier versions. I've got one that I want to put the chassis and interior from the newer 70 1/2 Camaro in but it's going to take some work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slusher Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 (edited) 35 minutes ago, Fat Brian said: It is pretty bad but typical for it's time. Poor fit, I'm pretty certain the engine is the wrong, held over from earlier versions. I've got one that I want to put the chassis and interior from the newer 70 1/2 Camaro in but it's going to take some work. That would be great! That is something I never thought of.. Edited March 16, 2020 by slusher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Brian Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 6 hours ago, slusher said: That would be great! That is something I never thought of.. It's going to take some work to get it to fit. The chassis plate is a little wide behind the rear wheel wells and for some reason the wheel base doesn't line up exactly. It's not impossible, just more work than it should be considering that stuff should be exactly the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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