xs650shawn Posted October 16, 2020 Posted October 16, 2020 Salvaging this from the scrap yard. One of the few remaining kits I have left from childhood. Built this box stock, originally in '92-'93. Time has not been kind to it. Couldn't trash it though, so what to do? Pro-street, yes? Kitbashing an AMT Coronet Pro Street chassis from the parts box, and possibly a DOHC Hemi. I think it looks neat without the wing, but wouldn't be a Superbird without it. Have to remake one of the wing uprights, as it broke on disassembly. Scratchbuilding has not been my forte, so this should be interesting.
matthijsgrit Posted October 16, 2020 Posted October 16, 2020 Some inspiration for this great build!!!
NYLIBUD Posted October 16, 2020 Posted October 16, 2020 1 hour ago, matthijsgrit said: Some inspiration for this great build!!! Oh do I remember that red Daytona from an issue of Hot Rod.
Snake45 Posted October 16, 2020 Posted October 16, 2020 8 hours ago, xs650shawn said: I think it looks neat without the wing, but wouldn't be a Superbird without it. If you think it looks good without the wing, build it that way. It's YOUR model. FWIW, I'm planning to rebuild a JoHan Superbird as a modern road cruiser without the wing. Drive on!
Steve H Posted October 16, 2020 Posted October 16, 2020 Hi Shawn, I am a lover of all things pro street. You are off to a great start, I will be watching. Really like the mock up ride height! Cheers, Steve
espo Posted October 16, 2020 Posted October 16, 2020 Not that it matters but I would leave off the wing. At most maybe a small lip spoiler on the edge of the trunk lid. Your mock up with out the wing this really looks slick. Great job on the chassis.
Metalmad Posted October 16, 2020 Posted October 16, 2020 Looking Good ! Just a thought but what if you shorten the rear wing ?
misterNNL Posted October 16, 2020 Posted October 16, 2020 I'm liking the attitude and altitude of this one!
Steve H Posted October 17, 2020 Posted October 17, 2020 I’m on board with no wing, but... it will be super cool either way.
AmericanMuscleFan Posted October 17, 2020 Posted October 17, 2020 Very cool project Shawn! It's your build, it's your way! I love the potentially very low position, it gives this very long body shell a totally different look. Great start sir!!!
Superbird McMonte Posted October 17, 2020 Posted October 17, 2020 The Monogram Superbird wing is out of scale. It is too tall and too narrow at the top. The JoHan wing is actually in scale for both manufacturers. This is the Monogram Superbird with JoHan wing.
Bills72sj Posted October 17, 2020 Posted October 17, 2020 For what you are doing and the cool mock up, I vote for no wing.
slusher Posted October 18, 2020 Posted October 18, 2020 On 10/16/2020 at 8:09 PM, cobraman said: Looks really slick without the wing. IMO Totally agree!
Claude Thibodeau Posted October 18, 2020 Posted October 18, 2020 Hi Shawn! Great build, and a promising start! My two cents: this car with no wing is thumbing your nose at history... but we live in 2020, right? You may want to borrow from most of the "retro-design" cars of late, like the Mustang, New Beetle, Thunderbird, Camaro and all, improving on the original design cues.. and seriously shorten the pillars of your oem wing. Might get rid of the frayed base section (less scratchbuild to do), and make it more contemporary? Still a wing, but revisited. For what it's worth, IMHO. Keep on, it's interesting! CT
misterNNL Posted October 19, 2020 Posted October 19, 2020 On 10/17/2020 at 2:57 PM, Superbird McMonte said: The Monogram Superbird wing is out of scale. It is too tall and too narrow at the top. The JoHan wing is actually in scale for both manufacturers. This is the Monogram Superbird with JoHan wing. Wow..these photos could pas for the real thing ..well done.
xs650shawn Posted October 19, 2020 Author Posted October 19, 2020 Got to spend a little time at the bench today. Too many other projects. Cut the floor out of the interior bucket to drop the body over the pan a bit more. Might remove a bit more. Think I need to lengthen the front subframe a bit, to center the front wheels. Looks like it'll place them too far back. Also leaning towards modifying this wing for it. Cutting the stock wing down doesn't do it for me. As a "pro-street" car, ideally it would have to be streetable, including a functional trunk lid. A cut down factory spoiler wouldn't allow for that. Plus, I'm digging how sleek it looks without it.
OldNYJim Posted October 19, 2020 Posted October 19, 2020 I love it without the rear wing too! I know the huge rear wing kinda the whole thing with these...but I dig how sleek it looks with it gone too! Following!
Snake45 Posted October 19, 2020 Posted October 19, 2020 1 hour ago, matthijsgrit said: I've never understood the aerodynamic advantage of such a "wing." Can someone explain it to me?
Jantrix Posted October 19, 2020 Posted October 19, 2020 1 hour ago, Snake45 said: I've never understood the aerodynamic advantage of such a "wing." Can someone explain it to me? I'm no expert, but boxy cars can cause a vacuum behind them which can cause drag and/or turbulence. I think this wing is used to push the air over car further behind the car and at least reduce that vacuum. Just an educated guess.
Steve H Posted October 21, 2020 Posted October 21, 2020 Hmmm... maybe a wing from the 83-85 Hurst/Olds? Again, regardless of wing, no wing size of wing, this is going to be super cool. Do it your way! Cheers, Steve
gbtr6 Posted October 21, 2020 Posted October 21, 2020 It effectively lengthens the body and keeps the air on it longer and smooths it out. With the square boxy bodies, the air breaks up and creates turbulence, and drag. Same idea as diffusers for the underside on a lot of cars today. Perry
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