89AKurt Posted June 12, 2020 Posted June 12, 2020 3 hours ago, Hard_2_Handle_454 said: It's the kit I didn't know I needed. ? Me too. ? The current kits are awful, so I haven't had the urge. But this looks very tempting, I'm amazed Revell is doing as well. I'm not expert about E-types, you guys are killing me! The tires seem to be too low an aspect ratio, at the time, tall and narrow was the norm, perhaps saving not making new molds for correct tires? Revell could produce the correct tires, and sell as separate detail parts. Understand why the wire wheels are this way, wish Revell would at least try what Fujimi does so well. Should be the door mirror, perhaps have the option with both, how hard can that be? Now for the big question, wasn't there a V12?
MrObsessive Posted June 12, 2020 Posted June 12, 2020 47 minutes ago, 89AKurt said: Now for the big question, wasn't there a V12? I think starting with the '71's, there was a V12. Bigger 2+2 coupe at this point and dare I say to my eyes a bit ungainly looking. For whatever reason Jaguar discontinued the two seat FHC. The OTS I think might have been a bit bigger as well, but still looked good.
keyser Posted June 12, 2020 Posted June 12, 2020 (edited) Hey Kurt. No V12 until mid 71. Series 3. Longer, wider, had six or 12, dropped 6 shortly. I don't think US got any 6's. Things were boats, but Tullius made badass race cars out of them. Agree about lumpy 2+2, S1 and S2 2+2 even worse. Igor-what hump? Tires tba. They were actually fairly narrow, so section height lower because of that. 175-185. Dumflops usually. That was why steering was so direct. And they stuck. Slid nicely too. Sorry I'm all over this thread. I kinda like E's for many reasons 67 2+2 Ughh 67 FHC 2 seater Edited June 12, 2020 by keyser steering
Matt Bacon Posted June 12, 2020 Posted June 12, 2020 Had a series 3 V12 2+2 for a very enjoyable (if expensive) long weekend. I’d always felt the same on the looks of the 2+2 from the outside, but I’m a shade under 6 ft and there wasn’t that much headroom and the eyeline was very high up the screen, so the S1 coupe must be pretty cramped for regular sized people! The S3 v12 May be an “ugly duckling”, but petrol consumption aside, it’s probably the most usable E Type... best, M.
64Comet404 Posted June 12, 2020 Posted June 12, 2020 18 hours ago, MrObsessive said: I like what I'm seeing! Of course, I can't help it but I do see a couple gaffes that need addressing. While the side profile looks good, to my eyes the windshield seems a bit "low". Here's a 1:1.......a '69 model I believe. I understand why Revell did this, but I'd absolutely have to thin down those A pillars. A bit too thick to my sight and takes away a bit from that lovely sweeping roofline. Granted these are test shots and of course, things may change by the time it gets to the hobby shelves. Either which way, this looks like a must get for me.....one can't have too may Jag kits! To my eyes, the thickness of the A pillar looks to be mostly on the inside of the glass, so I am wondering if most of that thick-pillar look we can see will be taken care of with some minor sanding and a lick of paint. It’s not going to stop me from buying at least one, though! The wheels don’t look too bad for kit items. I know Kurt was asking for wire wheels like Fujimi, but I think the person who tooled those great wires for the Daytona and accessory kits is long gone. The ‘wires’ I received in my 250 GTO looked more like a goofy set of aluminum rims I used to see on a Nissan 280ZX.
89AKurt Posted June 12, 2020 Posted June 12, 2020 Thanks everyone for the clarifications. Another thing that was bugging me, is it just because it's a test shot, but will the glass not look so much like it was vacuum-formed? It's one detail that Revell tends to lack, their 240Z is what I'm thinking of, the edge at the top of the window merging into the roof.
Matt Bacon Posted June 12, 2020 Posted June 12, 2020 23 minutes ago, 89AKurt said: Revell tends to lack, their 240Z is what I'm thinking of, the edge at the top of the window merging into the roof. Revell’s 240Z is nigh on 50 years old, and was tooled by Revell in the US. This German origin kit is comparable to the new Land Rover, McLaren 570, Porsche 934 or 918, or i8... chalk and cheese... best, M.
keyser Posted June 12, 2020 Posted June 12, 2020 https://www.uniquecarsandparts.com.au/paint_color_reference_jaguar The polys are called "opalescent" often. Link has more, but not tons of early stuff. These chips look reasonably close to actual. Many don't. The light metallics make curves pop. 61-64 MS chart. Link is wacky, not sorted. Have to hunt, but these are relevant ones. This site has examples, but years kinda off sometimes, pic will be a S1.5 or S2 and it'll say 65-67. Umm, No.
keyser Posted June 12, 2020 Posted June 12, 2020 Leather color chart. Seats from this kit on left. a pre-65 car, which I believe is also the Heller seat. Seats on the right are 65-67 seats. Few other changes overtly those years. Engine went to 4.2L from 3.8L, Moss gearbox went away for a synchro box.
64Comet404 Posted June 12, 2020 Posted June 12, 2020 3 hours ago, Matt Bacon said: Revell’s 240Z is nigh on 50 years old, and was tooled by Revell in the US. This German origin kit is comparable to the new Land Rover, McLaren 570, Porsche 934 or 918, or i8... chalk and cheese... best, M. I think that chalk and cheese were the materials used to create the original master for that kit...?
Matt Bacon Posted June 12, 2020 Posted June 12, 2020 The opalescent colours are very fine grained. I’ve used “pearl” paints as bases for mine. A bit like Aston Martin “Silver Birch”, they are not “metallic” in the way we talk now or model paint ranges describe those colours... best, M.
niteowl7710 Posted June 13, 2020 Posted June 13, 2020 10 hours ago, 89AKurt said: Thanks everyone for the clarifications. Another thing that was bugging me, is it just because it's a test shot, but will the glass not look so much like it was vacuum-formed? It's one detail that Revell tends to lack, their 240Z is what I'm thinking of, the edge at the top of the window merging into the roof. Usually clear parts do not receive their final tooling polish until the kit goes into production in case any last minute changes have to be made in shapes/contours before hand.
89AKurt Posted June 13, 2020 Posted June 13, 2020 10 hours ago, Matt Bacon said: Revell’s 240Z is nigh on 50 years old, and was tooled by Revell in the US. This German origin kit is comparable to the new Land Rover, McLaren 570, Porsche 934 or 918, or i8... chalk and cheese... best, M. Good to know, thanks.
David G. Posted June 13, 2020 Posted June 13, 2020 One of my all-time favorite car designs, put me down for one! David G.
Luc Janssens Posted June 13, 2020 Posted June 13, 2020 11 hours ago, niteowl7710 said: Usually clear parts do not receive their final tooling polish until the kit goes into production in case any last minute changes have to be made in shapes/contours before hand. Indeed polishing and graining is the final touch, it's the same in the automotive industry.
ZTony8 Posted June 13, 2020 Posted June 13, 2020 The windshield height/ side window height relationship is definitely off. Hope they fix it before regular production. And that funny kick up at the lower quarter window doesn't look to be easily remedied. A convertible will solve both of those issues.
Classicgas Posted June 13, 2020 Posted June 13, 2020 Looks like a must have. Any word on availability?
Matt Bacon Posted June 13, 2020 Posted June 13, 2020 Looks like I have a few months to build my Hellers, then... best, M.
unclescott58 Posted June 14, 2020 Posted June 14, 2020 I like what I'm seeing. Is it perfect? I don't know? But, I like the way it looks, and planning on adding one to my collection.
Bills72sj Posted June 14, 2020 Posted June 14, 2020 It will be nice to get one of these. My parents had a '71 V12 when I was in high school around '77. My step sister and I took it out for a joyride one afternoon while they were out of town on their motorcycle. The handling on Michelin radials was awesome. Got it over 120 mph AND came home in one piece. My brother tried to steal it one night when he ran away from home. We found it at the bottom of our street with a dead battery. He didn't know about the manual choke and couldn't get it to start in the dead of winter. He stole my Dad's brand new T-bird the next night. But that is a whole 'nother story.
afx Posted June 14, 2020 Posted June 14, 2020 (edited) 21 hours ago, Daddyfink said: Forget the wire wheels, i want stamped!! Edited June 14, 2020 by afx
beeRS Posted June 14, 2020 Posted June 14, 2020 Oh wow. This announcement from Revell has made me very happy. I'm glad they're doing the FHC too. Although I like the convertible, I just love the lines of the Coupe. I've been collecting parts for a fully detailed build for years, including the white metal parts from Gunze, and PE wires from MFH. I won't be using them now. I had always hoped that someone would do a new tool of the E Type. After seeing Tamiya's 300SL released a few years ago, I had dreamed that they may do one of these too. I'll settle for this Revell kit - its bound to be so much better than anything we have available now. I'll take at least two!
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