afx Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 (edited) As I understand it selling was not permitted because of the presence of the eModelCars website. Since that website is long gone would you like to see selling permitted now? Edited November 2, 2017 by afx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace-Garageguy Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 As the survival of the magazine most likely depends on advertising revenue, I'd tend to think that if selling were allowed here, it should have at least a minimal fee attached.While I'm well aware that most aftermarket suppliers are cottage industries and simply can't afford much, it seems only fair that, to get world-wide exposure on a dedicated car-modeling site, some kind of reasonable fee would be...reasonable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamsuperdan Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 I like Bill's idea. Let's allow selling, but let's generate some income for the site.Maybe a seller's sub-secton that requires a password? Password only available if you pay for it?Or a fee per post? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Smith Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 As the survival of the magazine most likely depends on advertising revenue, I'd tend to think that if selling were allowed here, it should have at least a minimal fee attached.While I'm well aware that most aftermarket suppliers are cottage industries and simply can't afford much, it seems only fair that, to get world-wide exposure on a dedicated car-modeling site, some kind of reasonable fee would be...reasonable.I agree with Bill. I don’t know if Gregg has the time or interest in developing something here, though. Seems he put a lot of work into eModelcars and that never really took off. Actually, there is quite a bit of “advertising” and company links that happen here all the time, without any compensation (that I know of). Are you thinking selling by individuals, like a “to trade” thread, only “for sale”? Or a way for people to buy from companies and recognize the source of business via payments to the forum owner? Much to consider, I guess. I would be open to a “for sale” thread but can also imagine a world of troubles associated with “moderating” it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoom Zoom Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 There are countless places on the web to buy/sell models. Why clutter up this site? I'm an admin on my club's Facebook page and we do not allow buy/sell/trades; too much drama, too much babysitting, too much clutter would be the result if we allowed it...and there are countless buy/sell/trade pages littering Facebook already. Our hobby sadly seems to be way too focused on buying/collecting/selling/trading vs. actually building. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazyjim Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 DO NOT SELL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waynehulsey Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 NO SALE!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afx Posted November 2, 2017 Author Share Posted November 2, 2017 Trading is already allowed between forum members, don't see why selling between members would be any different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim N Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 (edited) The big potential problem I see is who will police the bad actors? Plus there will always be sales that go sideways for a variety of reasons and none of them are nefarious. This will have to be addressed as well.I do not have any skin in this as I will not sell and likely will not buy, but these are things someone will have to consider and whether a person or people have the time to take care of them.A final point is that there have been exhausting threads by board members who felt they were cheated by a vendor when a sale did not go well. Is that something the owners of this site want? Edited November 2, 2017 by Jim N Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afx Posted November 2, 2017 Author Share Posted November 2, 2017 (edited) Paypal includes dispute resolution with it's service. This would be the mechanism to resolve issues between parties. Forum Admins would not need to be involved. Edited November 2, 2017 by afx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howard Cohen Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 I say 'NO' to selling here! This is a forum for builders. As others have said, there are lots of model selling groups on Facebook and you can easily join in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1930fordpickup Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 I like the way it is, Everything by PM at your own risk. The Moderators have enough on their plate keeping us in line. I would say I do not have a problem with posts telling people to go look in the aftermarket section or PM for details. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan White Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 (edited) Most forums that I've been to that involve a physical item have some sort of selling section, so I don't see why here can't be any different. Besides, why can't the forum and its moderators just say that the people involved are on their own and the forum is not responsible for any issues? Just use the "good traders" section as a reference. Edited November 2, 2017 by Jordan White Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim N Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 Paypal includes dispute resolution with it's service. This would be the mechanism to resolve issues between the parties. You are correct if Paypal is required for every transaction. My only point is that there are pitfalls and pratfalls to allowing selling on the site and I merely brought a few up. As I stated, I don't have any skin in this, and the owners of this site can do what they wish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
High octane Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 There are countless places on the web to buy/sell models. Why clutter up this site? I'm an admin on my club's Facebook page and we do not allow buy/sell/trades; too much drama, too much babysitting, too much clutter would be the result if we allowed it...and there are countless buy/sell/trade pages littering Facebook already. Our hobby sadly seems to be way too focused on buying/collecting/selling/trading vs. actually building.I hafta agree with Bob as many so call modelers are focused on buying and selling kits. If we were to have sales allowed on this forum it will cause problems down the road as I can see it now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daddyfink Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 If someone wants to buy or sell, they can do it off the board and in private once they contact each other. No, I would not support open selling or buying. Mainly because I hate threads about people getting burned and the bad mouthing that follows it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afx Posted November 2, 2017 Author Share Posted November 2, 2017 (edited) Trading is a greater risk as you have no mechanism to resolve disputes. I know I've gotten burned before. If you use a buying service you do have a mechanism if a deal goes wrong. Edited November 2, 2017 by afx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovefordgalaxie Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 NO. That can open a huge can of worms. The form post version of spam mail come to mind. All facebook groups I'm into that allowed selling, were inundated with posts of stuff for sale. Here it will use the picture space that was created when PB went to the dark side. Paying a fee would work, but would also require a 24/7 moderator just to enforce the stuff for sale.Today there is already some posts I think are pure advertisement in the workbench area, where a guy posts 3D stuff that he makes, along with offering the product, and not a single real build picture or WIP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draggon Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 Despite all the "no" posts voting is tied at this moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
my66s55 Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 I totally agree with the no sale. Every reason I can think of for not doing has been stated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aurfalien Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 Hi,Well it would make me helping Eds wife sell his kits.She's not set up for eBay.So I say "yeseth". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belugawrx Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 Here are plenty of places to sell goods, other than here..No Selling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dublin boy Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 I'm on a couple of sites that aren't car only, but you can put your kits up for sale in a given thread.It's between you and the other party only, i haven't seen any trouble with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randyc Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 Not here nor on FB. The cars and other things I've tried to sell on FB (Stove) just ended up being a hassle. Someone says they will buy, then disappears. As much as I don't like ebay, they have it down pat. And yes, they get a goodly chunk of your money as a seller. But the transaction gets completed without having to message back and forth for days while someone decides what they want to do - or tying up other offers after they say they will take something and then disappearing. No sense in making this a war zone with folks bringing anger to other posts over something in a sale transaction. If allowed, post the item then go to emails. Still a lot of room for folks to want revenge for a bad transaction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobthehobbyguy Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 Absolutely not. One more burden for the moderators. . Unfortunately Greg had provided emodelcars despite all the complaints about ebay no one took advantage of it. In fact when the forum wasc hacked Greg rebuilt it also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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