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Yep, JB you rae correct. You just never knew what the kit in a Lindberg Box would look like. I do not remember getting anything that was really great compared to the Airfix and Revell kits, that I built back in the 1980's. Some were Smooth, with few panel lines, and great shapes, and little surface detailing, others were Rivet-Fests, and even at 15, I could tell they were Turkeys. So What Me262 Kit did you pull off the shelf> The 1/48 Lindberg is a POS, but the newer (1970's) Monogram kit is pretty nice, even with raised Panel lines. By the time Monogram switched over to engraved lines in the 1980's, their last few 'raised line' kits, had very fine, very discrete panel lines, Not bad at all.

Harry, they understood it just fine. It's that raised panel lines were "state of the art" when this kit was first tooled. Just about everything from everybody had raised panel lines then. In fact on most kits ALL details were raised. That was the way things were back then. Alan

Great Trade with Brian (Driptroit 71) Kit was packed well, and everything was smooth. Thanks! Alan

I remember building this kit when I was about 16. (1980 or so) It was a Turkey even to my then very new eyes. Worse even than Monogram. (!) (remember how bad any Monogram kit that was NOT a Showrod was back in 1979-1980?) Very Blocky, and detail ranged from decent to looking like the tool had been cut with a crayon. The tires were very stiff, and I still recall how hard it was to get the wheels into the hard vinyl tires. I split at least one tire. Both of these Pryo tools are worse than toys. Lindberg should really never issue them again. The Nostalgia Market that these were targeted at, has mostly aged out of Model Building, (and doesn't want them anyway) and newer Modelers who may have built one of Lindbergs 1990's tools (the '53 Fords or the Dodge Minivan or Ford Crown Vic) will open this kit, Become Horrified by the Contents and never trust any Lindberg Box Art again. For Lindberg Kits, Round2 Needs to be VERY, VERY clear about what is in the box, going forward. Nostalgia BoxArt from Lindberg is all intended as deceptive advertising, to sell mediocre kits to an already discriminating market 30 years ago, when the tooling was already 25-30 years old and could not compete with Revell, AMT or Airfix even then. I'd go so far as to say from an Automotive Model standpoint that Round2 has gotten (at best) 20-25 Tools that should be issued. The rest are Junk. Every Last one of them. The best Round2 could do, is to publicly Promise never to inflict that DRECK on the Model buying public again. Never Happen, but that is my Two Cents on it.

Roll Cage, but no Racing Seat? No optional Steering Wheel? Only one set of tires?(and the wrong ones at that) Almost Thirty Bucks Retail? C'mon, Kats! You can do better than this. I really love the many 'new' kits that you guys have put out! I've bought far more than I really should have, partially to show support for Round2 and boost sales, partially because I just had to have the kit, regardless of whether I already had one in the stash or not.. Others (the Manx Buggy, Flameout) I've bought because I never got a chance to own the original issues. I respect the tremendous amount of effort that has gone into resurrecting older kits. New Tool parts,(mostly wheels) Vastly improved Decal Sheets,Restoration of missing parts, Vintage Box Art, it has all worked for me. It sold me two '49 Mercs when I already owned 8 unbuilt. It sold me another pair of Studebaker Avanti's when I had at least three unbuilt. It even sold me the '65 Mustang Gasser, a car style (Gasser) and make (Ford) that I normally don't prefer. If this kit represents what we can expect in the Future, I'm going to be buying a lot more Revell '29 Fords. The whole presentation on the Firebird Kit smacks of "Half-A$$ing It". The thoughtful matching of parts and options that marked many other releases, is missing from this kit. While the decal Sheet is indeed spectacular,it does not in anyway justify the purchase of this kit. The 'Disco' Box Art is again, nice, but no more than nice. I feel like there are two teams at Round2. One Goes All-In, and the other is just there for the LOL's so to speak. The 1936 Ford, the '49 Merc, both the Studes, these are first team. The second team looks to have done the Three Stooges '40 Ford (nice decals tho) the Pepsi Stock Car, and now the Firebird. Please, Round2, I know that not every kit can be a homerun, but in this instance, the lack of effort shows. And shows badly. At almost 30.00, I cannot afford to buy this as a parts donor for older kits, as I would have in the old days. Cut the price to fit what it is, or add some more parts back into it, and make it a real 2'n'1 kit. Alan

Count me in, on the multiple purchase bandwagon. Let me echo the others. Tim, Thank You for extensive review and photos. Given my slow building speed, I see this kit bashed with the upcoming Coupe, and the Roadster with the Blown engine. It will be fun, that much is sure. Alan

As far as the comments about the split axle and diecast cars. If the Axle were molded in a Different (and stronger) plastic (ABS maybe) my complaint would be moot. However, I've seen too many kits undone by just by age and normal handling. That experience is what prompts my concern. Others my have had more and different experiences than I have had. I'd not thought about the epoxy solution. Thank You, Dave. Alan Alexis

Well, the Top of the axle is a small hit, but really not worth talking about. My beef is the flimsy looking Split axle ends. Exactly how long will those last? Much as I like the car, in a few years, there are going to be a large number of three wheeled and two wheeled Satellites. And I see no real way to repair or strengthen the mounting pins for the wheels. Even just gluing them solid, still leaves what appears to be a very fragile joint. So when they do break, well, that's it. Put fork in it. I'm not too keen on the One Piece Axle,Driveshaft and Springs bit, either, but it's no worse than what AMT was doing 50 years ago, and MPC into the 1970's. Nice to see that Moebius chose this place to take a shortcut, rather than someplace really visible. How much time do we spend looking at the undersides of a finished kit anyhow? Even at a show, it is a Death Penalty offense to pick up somebody else's model and turn it over to peer at the bottom. So, On a scale of Nits-to-Pick, this axle thing rates a 2(at best) and the wheel mounts rate a 3.5. IMHO. Alan

Danno, thanks for the heads-up on the Siren. I had honestly not looked that closely at it. I'll fix it, when I build mine. Thanks! Alan

Bob Ellis. PM me with your FAX number, and I can send a copy of the Sedan instruction with the Blower Parts on it.

Man, I need to get one of these kits. Strangely, while I have many left over parts from this kit that were in various 'parts-lots' I've gotten over the years,I'ver actually owned the kit. I hope the Big Box hobby/craft stores start to stock them.

OK, so who do we need to send the emails to? Ed Sexton, or somebody else? Alan

Eye-Bleach! Where's the Eye-Bleach?

Bob Paeth, on his late night phone calls to me would reminisce about many of the kits he was involve with. I remember him talking about this one. He was proud of having had a hand in getting some more use out of what was then, a useless tool. I wish I had asked him to tell me more about the Miss Deal kit. He was proud of his part in that one too. Great Builds of Both Kits. Like others, I suspect we'll never see the '62 Mopar kits again.

I've dealt with Both Companies. Revell has provided parts to me Gratis for two or three kits that were missing. I've even gotten parts for an RoG (Revell of Germany) kit. Took 9 weeks for them to arrive, but then the Revell website states clearly the RoG parts can take 6-8 weeks to ship. I was not worried at all. I've sent the Barcodes from the bottom of Round2 boxes and gotten the parts I requested quickly. I've also printed out the "replacement parts" form and mailed Round2 a Money Order for extra decal sheets and parts. I pay the listed prices for the extras as posted on the website, and have gotten the same excellent service. I don't mind paying for the privilege of buying a decal sheet for a kit that I already have an older version of, and just want the updated sheet. I completely understand the Barcode thing. On a kit where I did not want to cut up the box, I just paid for the parts myself. But others may feel differently than I do. Alan

Over 650 Kits of cars and another 150 or so, of airplanes and about 35 tanks. Way too many. I need to start clearing out the stash. As Tom Billings said, my Buy to Build ratio is hugely upside down. Alan

OK, I'm in. #4 #5 Number 11. They made it Stock, i wanted a Rod. Corollary to #8 (Does not apply to this kit, this time, but may in the future)

I saw that message too. I wondered what it meant. Thanks William, for sharing.

Model A Tudor Sedan.

I've read many of Asimov's books. I remember how awful I though the Will Smith movie was, compared to the book.

I just have to ask..... Was the worker named "Dave"? Or the Robot, "Hal"?

This has been one of the best threads on this whole forum! Uplifting and practical. To hear from Builders who's work has been in magazines I've read or even seen in person (Scott Colmer), that they struggle too with some aspects of the hobby, makes me a little more willing to just build it, and stop worrying so much about how it turns out. I'm from the "the Perfect is the enemy of the Good" school of building. Since what I envision in my minds eye, is never what the finished product looks like, I've just stopped. This thread prods me to take down some Shelf O'Doom, projects, and work on them. Thanks. Alan

If the car has emotional value, go for it. As many others have commented, it WILL be a Money Pit. Only you can decide if the cost, trouble, and effort will be worth it in the end. I can say that if you are having to wait to get the $500 to buy the car, and you don't have a large trust fund set to come to you when you turn 18, Money will be THE decisive issue with this job. As William Just said, Go On tackle this sucker. It will either Cure you forever of "Projects" or light a fire that will never go out. That part is totally up to you. The other guys who have commented on this car, know far more than I do. My work with engines was Model T Fords (stock) and Buicks. Nothing really relevant to your car. Listen well to them. Good Luck, Alan

Ah, Mike, Thanks for weighing in on the differences in underpinnings on the Bluesmobile vs Truckster. So trying to share Chassis would not work. So, I think a concentration on the Bluesmobile would be the place to start. Perhaps a Monaco Wagon could be leveraged from that. Part of my thinking on this proposal is to show that This is a viable subject to kit. That means getting as much use from the tool as possible. Ergo, maybe a Wagon would be good follow up.

Snake, the XP-47H, the Ultimate Hemi. What a beast!